logo
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error
Peter Hook Reflects On Joy Division & New Order
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Previous Topic Next Topic
Anne Ballard  
#1 Posted : 04 March 2013 19:45:10(UTC)
Anne Ballard

Rank: Candidate

Groups: Registered
Joined: 01/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 22
Man

Thanks: 17 times
Was thanked: 51 time(s) in 23 post(s)
Peter Hook Reflects On Joy Division & New Order [Rock Cellar Magazine]
http://www.rockcellarmagazine.c...-joy-division-new-order/
Back to top
WWW
thanks 2 users thanked Anne Ballard for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC), Big Mouth Julio on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Sponsor
Back to top  
Andy  
#2 Posted : 04 March 2013 20:16:37(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
He frequently repeats the same anecdotes verbatim so, at first, I thought I'd read this one before: The Lights' audiences are full of youngsters, Gillian didn't contribute to the music, etc.

Later in the interview, however, he seems to go out of his way to praise Bernard. Calling him a genius multiple times. He also speaks of Steve and Gillians' "work" not being used for Republic.

Are the relationships thawing?
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Eimi  
#3 Posted : 04 March 2013 22:54:55(UTC)
Eimi

Rank: Member of the Movement

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 688
Woman
Location: Japan

Thanks: 528 times
Was thanked: 875 time(s) in 688 post(s)
Andy wrote:
He frequently repeats the same anecdotes verbatim so, at first, I thought I'd read this one before: The Lights' audiences are full of youngsters, Gillian didn't contribute to the music, etc.

Later in the interview, however, he seems to go out of his way to praise Bernard. Calling him a genius multiple times. He also speaks of Steve and Gillians' "work" not being used for Republic.

Are the relationships thawing?


Maybe that's reading too much into it.
Back to top
BLOG
thanks 1 user thanked Eimi for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
World Domination: Complete  
#4 Posted : 04 March 2013 23:17:26(UTC)
Baggie Boiler

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 793
Man
Location: in a house

Thanks: 894 times
Was thanked: 1022 time(s) in 811 post(s)
what a great cure for insomnia
Let's all wave our arms about !
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Baggie Boiler for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Coops  
#5 Posted : 05 March 2013 00:29:14(UTC)
Coops

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 448
Location: Xiberia

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 611 time(s) in 456 post(s)
Andy wrote:
He also speaks of Steve and Gillians' "work" not being used for Republic.

Are the relationships thawing?

Well, I seem to remember the problems with Republic being Stephen Hagues fault (according to Hooky) now it appears Bernard was the one who fucked around with things so who knows?
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Coops for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse  
#6 Posted : 05 March 2013 03:51:00(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,998
Location: Rome

Thanks: 61 times
Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)
HOOKY IN NO INTERVIEW SHOCK!!!
The rock world has been shaken to its very foundations by Hooky not talking to the press for a billisecond. A spokesperson for Hooky said, 'He is a notoriously private person and once every proverbial blue moon doesn't want to shout his mouth off about how JD would have mutated into New Order anyway, the Light are touring the universe and Gillian is, technically speaking, a cookie runt.' The Stoke-on-Trent Times is now the only newspaper not to have shared these fascinating insights. Get well soon, Hooky!
PS I love Hooky.

Edited by user 05 March 2013 09:24:59(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Michael Monkhouse for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse  
#7 Posted : 05 March 2013 03:53:16(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,998
Location: Rome

Thanks: 61 times
Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)
Coops wrote:
Andy wrote:
He also speaks of Steve and Gillians' "work" not being used for Republic.

Are the relationships thawing?

Well, I seem to remember the problems with Republic being Stephen Hagues fault (according to Hooky) now it appears Bernard was the one who fucked around with things so who knows?

Yeah, the Rep-is-shite-cos-of-no-Hooky-thanx-to-Stephen-Hague thing is now a commonplace, but there were rumours it was essentially Bernard's baby. Either way it's no masterpiece, bugger.
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Michael Monkhouse for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse  
#8 Posted : 05 March 2013 03:54:51(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,998
Location: Rome

Thanks: 61 times
Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)
leather-girl wrote:
Andy wrote:
He frequently repeats the same anecdotes verbatim so, at first, I thought I'd read this one before: The Lights' audiences are full of youngsters, Gillian didn't contribute to the music, etc.

Later in the interview, however, he seems to go out of his way to praise Bernard. Calling him a genius multiple times. He also speaks of Steve and Gillians' "work" not being used for Republic.

Are the relationships thawing?


Maybe that's reading too much into it.


Agreed. In true NO style Hooky says shitloads and most of it's contradictory, e.g. as I wrote elsewhere, when Republic emerged he said he loved it cos Hague'd kept 'em classic New Order songs!
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Michael Monkhouse for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 05/03/2013(UTC)
Coops  
#9 Posted : 05 March 2013 08:57:07(UTC)
Coops

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 448
Location: Xiberia

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 611 time(s) in 456 post(s)
Michael Monkhouse wrote:

Yeah, the Rep-is-shite-cos-of-no-Hooky-thanx-to-Stephen-Hague thing is now a commonplace, but there were rumours it was essentially Bernard's baby. Either way it's no masterpiece, bugger.

Bollocks, its a fine album.
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Coops for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse  
#10 Posted : 05 March 2013 09:24:04(UTC)
Michael Monkhouse

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,998
Location: Rome

Thanks: 61 times
Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)
Do you really like it? I find it incredibly dull, with the exception of (obviously) Regret and Special and maybe Everyone Everywhere. It was the combination of Republic, The Rest Of and Raise The Pressure that got my enthusiasm dwindling.
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Michael Monkhouse for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
ZASmusic  
#11 Posted : 05 March 2013 10:01:14(UTC)
ZASmusic

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 16/01/2013(UTC)
Posts: 133
Location: New York City

Thanks: 7 times
Was thanked: 201 time(s) in 134 post(s)
I like Republic, I think it's a great rainy day album. It has some of Bernard's best lyrics too. If the production wasn't so smooth and it had more Hooky on it it would be Tecnhique Part 2. I do think of it as the come down after the party.
Back to top
WWW
thanks 2 users thanked ZASmusic for this useful post.
Eimi on 05/03/2013(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Volturno  
#12 Posted : 05 March 2013 12:00:03(UTC)
Volturno

Rank: Member of the Village

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 86
Location: Rio de Janeiro

Thanks: 17 times
Was thanked: 97 time(s) in 87 post(s)
Great interview, it does seem like he's not so bitter about the rest of the band anymore.

Quote:
RCM: One specific track – Regret. Your bass work and your bass solo in the middle – how did you came up with that?

PH: The interesting thing about Regret - as much as I hate to say it – is that it was probably the last true New Order song because it was done by the 4 of us together,

He's been saying this for a while, but only now it has been clarified.
He never meant that post-Regret songs didn't sound like NO, they just weren't written in the same way.
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Volturno for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Debaser  
#13 Posted : 05 March 2013 13:57:10(UTC)
Debaser

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,118
Location: here n there

Thanks: 528 times
Was thanked: 3199 time(s) in 2140 post(s)
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
Do you really like it? I find it incredibly dull, with the exception of (obviously) Regret and Special and maybe Everyone Everywhere.


Sometimes i put Avalanche on repeat. Again and again. I wish it was longer. Is that weird?
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Debaser for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Eimi  
#14 Posted : 05 March 2013 16:41:53(UTC)
Eimi

Rank: Member of the Movement

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 688
Woman
Location: Japan

Thanks: 528 times
Was thanked: 875 time(s) in 688 post(s)
Coops wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote:

Yeah, the Rep-is-shite-cos-of-no-Hooky-thanx-to-Stephen-Hague thing is now a commonplace, but there were rumours it was essentially Bernard's baby. Either way it's no masterpiece, bugger.

Bollocks, its a fine album.

Nice to see another person liking 'Republic'; I love the album. It seems to be the album that people either hate or love.
Back to top
BLOG
thanks 1 user thanked Eimi for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
tarbox23  
#15 Posted : 05 March 2013 17:11:25(UTC)
tarbox23

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 119
Man
Location: mystic, ct

Thanks: 58 times
Was thanked: 156 time(s) in 120 post(s)
I was impressed with several of the photographs which I had never seen before.

How do they get these photos? Does Hooky give them to the zine?
Boston MA 86 | Great Woods MA 87-89-93 | Lake Compounce CT 89 | Meadowlands NJ 89 | NYC 05 + 12
Back to top
WWW
thanks 1 user thanked tarbox23 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Big Mouth Julio  
#16 Posted : 05 March 2013 19:06:39(UTC)
Big Mouth Julio

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 316
Man
Location: São Luís - Brasil

Thanks: 26 times
Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)
Quote:
In Manchester, New Order played 2 nights at the Apollo for 6,000 people. The Stone Roses come back and do 225,000 people in Manchester? That doesn’t seem fair to me. I mean, for the Roses to come back and be as big as they are, when they only really did 1½ records, that’s fucking amazing! Isn’t it?


People are stupid indeed. Evil
Finsbury Park 2002
Brasilia 2006
Sao Paulo 2006 1st Night
Sao Paulo 2006 2nd Night
Sao Paulo 2011
Lima 2013
Bogota 2013
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Big Mouth Julio for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
No Barcode  
#17 Posted : 05 March 2013 19:29:33(UTC)
No Barcode

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/07/2012(UTC)
Posts: 157

Thanks: 18 times
Was thanked: 187 time(s) in 159 post(s)
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
Quote:
In Manchester, New Order played 2 nights at the Apollo for 6,000 people. The Stone Roses come back and do 225,000 people in Manchester? That doesn’t seem fair to me. I mean, for the Roses to come back and be as big as they are, when they only really did 1½ records, that’s fucking amazing! Isn’t it?


People are stupid indeed. Evil


I could never understand that insane popularity of the Stone Roses. I guess one had to live in Britain in '88-'89 to get it. But still, years later, whenever they get together, they attract the biggest crowds. Technically, it was all down to one single album. The 1994 LP was hardly a game changer.
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked No Barcode for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Coops  
#18 Posted : 05 March 2013 23:56:40(UTC)
Coops

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 448
Location: Xiberia

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 611 time(s) in 456 post(s)
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
Do you really like it? I find it incredibly dull, with the exception of (obviously) Regret and Special and maybe Everyone Everywhere. It was the combination of Republic, The Rest Of and Raise The Pressure that got my enthusiasm dwindling.

I know most people think its a stinker but its just one of those things. I really bought into the glossy image of it all at the time. Savilles glossy artworks, the glossy production, appearing with The Hoff for Top Of The Pops, it was all OTT and the complete antithesis of the gloomy looking Manchester sounds and images from the past. Plus, I think the summer of 1993 was a sunny one and it blended nicely with that too.

Fook, Republic is twenty years old. I feel old now.

Edited by user 06 March 2013 00:01:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
Back to top
thanks 1 user thanked Coops for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 06/03/2013(UTC)
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF 2.1.1 | YAF © 2003-2024, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.554 seconds.