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depthcharge		#1 Posted : 28 February 2021 16:58:55(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 324 time(s) in 195 post(s)		Unknown Pleasures & Closer again. Dates I might be the only one wishing he was touring Technique and Republic here, for the sheer spectacle of it all. But I've heard it's an expensive and more technically complex show to run.

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markreed		#2 Posted : 03 March 2021 15:38:16(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 02/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 229 Location: Somewhere, GB Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 353 time(s) in 229 post(s)		Originally Posted by: depthcharge Unknown Pleasures & Closer again. Dates I might be the only one wishing he was touring Technique and Republic here, for the sheer spectacle of it all. But I've heard it's an expensive and more technically complex show to run. I might be the only one wishing he was touring a New Fucking Song, instead of playing 40 year old songs as a tribute act to himself. He's had a decades worth of victory laps now.
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50poundnote		#3 Posted : 04 March 2021 10:04:44(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 550 Thanks: 39 times Was thanked: 1064 time(s) in 551 post(s)		Originally Posted by: depthcharge I've heard it's an expensive and more technically complex show to run. I don't think it's a matter of expense. There's no special light show, and it's the same band. Joy Division nostalgia sells more tickets than New Order nostalgia, especially when New Order are still a going concern. Having seen the tours, things start to sound dodgy after 1982. For the later albums the synth player is triggering obvious loops taken from CDs - you can tell by the sections used, and the way they're looped. I doubt Barney or Steve would give him access to the original synths (if they even still have them and/or they're in working condition) to build a better library of sounds.
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markreed		#4 Posted : 04 March 2021 15:09:15(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 02/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 229 Location: Somewhere, GB Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 353 time(s) in 229 post(s)		Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Originally Posted by: depthcharge I've heard it's an expensive and more technically complex show to run. I don't think it's a matter of expense. There's no special light show, and it's the same band. Joy Division nostalgia sells more tickets than New Order nostalgia, especially when New Order are still a going concern. Having seen the tours, things start to sound dodgy after 1982. For the later albums the synth player is triggering obvious loops taken from CDs - you can tell by the sections used, and the way they're looped. I doubt Barney or Steve would give him access to the original synths (if they even still have them and/or they're in working condition) to build a better library of sounds. That's not the official line : https://www.reasonstudio...peter-hook-and-the-light
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50poundnote		#5 Posted : 05 March 2021 09:50:15(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 550 Thanks: 39 times Was thanked: 1064 time(s) in 551 post(s)		Originally Posted by: markreed That's not the official line : https://www.reasonstudio...peter-hook-and-the-light Eh, so I'm wrong. Doesn't change the fact that the songs fall into "uncanny valley" territory for me - almost right, but just enough off that I can tell.
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depthcharge		#6 Posted : 07 March 2021 22:52:56(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 324 time(s) in 195 post(s)		Originally Posted by: markreed I might be the only one wishing he was touring a New Fucking Song, instead of playing 40 year old songs as a tribute act to himself. He's had a decades worth of victory laps now. Haha, you're not the only one. I'm keeping things in the realms of reality here. He's been threatening some new Monaco for a while, this last year seemed like an ideal opportunity to bang that out.

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depthcharge		#7 Posted : 07 March 2021 22:58:26(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 324 time(s) in 195 post(s)		Originally Posted by: markreed That's not the official line : https://www.reasonstudio...peter-hook-and-the-light Thanks for unearthing that article. I'd only read Hooky's take on it before and it stuck in mind how painful it's become.

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M1		#8 Posted : 09 March 2021 12:56:44(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 242 Location: Adelaide Thanks: 109 times Was thanked: 307 time(s) in 242 post(s)		Originally Posted by: depthcharge Unknown Pleasures & Closer again. Dates I might be the only one wishing he was touring Technique and Republic here, for the sheer spectacle of it all. But I've heard it's an expensive and more technically complex show to run. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed too, if only for completion sake. Have seen him do JD several times now including the orchestral thing a couple of years ago. Was keen to see the Technique and Republic shows even though, having listened a few times on Spotify, they easily sound the most wobbly. Despite or more likely because of the heavy use of Tycho Brahe backing tracks diminishing the organic quality of PH&tL gigs.

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Andy		#9 Posted : 10 March 2021 08:52:44(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,216 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1649 times Was thanked: 3319 time(s) in 2236 post(s)		Saw The Light in 2014 (Low-Life and Brotherhood) and haven't been tempted again. I appreciate the intention of Hooky finding a way to celebrate his legacy that way. And the band perform amazingly well. It's just that I find it to be a bizarre combination of musically aping the records (which New Order didn't really try to do live, especially before Republic) but with the vocals being very different, for obvious reasons. I know there are the critics of New Odor without Hooky live, but I guess it's just personal preference.
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depthcharge		#10 Posted : 17 March 2021 05:56:40(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 324 time(s) in 195 post(s)		I get why some people aren't enthused about the Hooky shows and I doubt there's anyone here who doesn't wish circumstances were different. Part of it for me is simply an opportunity to share a NO night with fellow hardened fans, neck some ales, chat about the bands, connect for a few hours. Whether you believe it's a pantomime or not, you can't deny there's music history up there on stage -- and most likely he's going to bang it all out with one true passion. Add in the fact that it's a little different in places like AU where we endured relatively long dry spells of no live shows. Makes some of us more susceptible to grabbing any NO-related opportunity that hits town.

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Michael Monkhouse		#11 Posted : 13 April 2021 07:11:00(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Originally Posted by: depthcharge Unknown Pleasures & Closer again. Dates I might be the only one wishing he was touring Technique and Republic here, for the sheer spectacle of it all. But I've heard it's an expensive and more technically complex show to run. Totally agree. I've seen him 7 times in and around Rome and I'm bored of JD. Even the early NO gig at Atlantico kicked off with Joy Division including Love will tear uzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Apart and Tranzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzion. I assume it's cos 'original member of JD plays Unknown Pleasures' is gonna shift more tickets than 'One of the brains behind Liar gives you... CHEMICAL!' There was the Substance tour, but that was the one I missed for reasons I won't bore you with.

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Dennis Remmer		#12 Posted : 08 August 2021 22:40:33(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 216 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia Thanks: 204 times Was thanked: 374 time(s) in 216 post(s)		Originally Posted by: depthcharge Unknown Pleasures & Closer again. Dates Dates Changed
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Sage_		#13 Posted : 18 November 2022 05:56:13(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 02/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Melbourne, Australia Thanks: 105 times Was thanked: 220 time(s) in 164 post(s)		Figure I may as well post here. The concerts were this weekend. I really, sincerely enjoyed it. Hearing the NO and JD songs interpreted by Hooky and his band.👌 Better than I was expecting. Hey look I grabbed a setlist! The New Order part of the set, which was a highlight for me. Made eye contact with Hooky several times. Really enjoyed his bass guitar and the efforts of the band. Unknown Pleasures really holds up as an album. Lots of Unknown Pleasures t-shirts in the crowd. Really a phenomenal night. Would recommend for anyone familiar with JD or NO. Really fascinating hearing Peter Hook do his basslines for NO before switching into JD. His vocals were great too, hasn't aged since the 90's. The encore was outstanding. Shout out to this guy who caught the drumstick. I feel the drummer did Steve Morris justice. Very happy with the gig overall.

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Andy		#14 Posted : 18 November 2022 11:46:30(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,216 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1649 times Was thanked: 3319 time(s) in 2236 post(s)		I prefer him doing Joy Division tracks, but glad you enjoyed it. I find it peculiar that his New Order mini-sets rarely include "Dreams Never End" and "Doubts Even Here", of late. I appreciated him doing "What Do You Want From Me?" in San Francisco when I saw him earlier this year.
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Dennis Remmer		#15 Posted : 20 November 2022 21:59:04(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 216 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia Thanks: 204 times Was thanked: 374 time(s) in 216 post(s)		Catching Hooky's Brisbane gig this Friday night. Hoping for Pineapple Face but that won't happen...
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