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Were they on The Old Grey Whistle Test? Cool. John Lennon and PIL did that show too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qHWquydhzYEdited by user 03 October 2021 06:45:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz 
To Perspex’ question about TPK on Whistle Test, yep it was definitely May 1985 but not sure exactly the date but it was around the release. It was when Whistle Test for a time was on about 7pm or something on Tuesday evening. If you don’t believe me look it up on Genome. This was when I managed to record the brief clip of TPK off the show and all I had of the vid until the release of the Substance VHS. The traditional time of course for Whistle Test was late on a Friday night . I did actually by luck also catch the showing of Steve’s vid for BM on the edition of Whistle Test on 20/01/84 but didn’t have a video recorder in my bedroom to record it and so never saw it again for years. You might get lucky tracking down those editions of the show featuring the BM vid and the TPK vid but I should imagine it’ll be hard!
Oh and no, I no longer have the VHS tape with the Whistle Test clip of TPK. Lost it or something somehow many years ago.
Cheers Fotz! I appreciate the info. Yep - I have tried to track down those 'missing' OGWT appearances, with little luck. Not that those two video showings are probably much really (after all, we already have copies of the videos in their entirety). I just like to see how these things were presented back in the day. See whether the presenters commented on the videos etc. There's a really cool repository of TOTP episodes on the internet, that someone's put up. I wish there was something similar for OGWT. The Chart Show too (I've been trying to track down all the band's appearances on that prog; just for the silly 'text facts' they used to put on screen).
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Originally Posted by: perspexorange Depending on when Substance 1989 was released in the year, I guess it might not have been in time to include Run 2 anyway.
If I remember correctly, the Substance 1989 VHS was released in September that year. Run 2 was released just a few weeks earlier in late August. Or at least the UK release dates were. So obviously the VHS would have been produced some months, or even earlier, before. I guess the Run 2 vid could potentially at a push have made it onto the VHS and would actually have tied in nicely with the close release dates of both.Though of course if the VHS was actually compiled a year or two earlier then delayed release that was never going to happen. Vaguely recall being puzzled that more NO vids like original BM 83 vid and at a push Fine Time and Round & Round weren’t included. But as mentioned above , probably a number of reasons why Steve’s knocked up vid wasn’t on it. Can hardly remember what the State Of The Nation video was like. I guess it was similar to Shellshock so as mentioned, maybe too samey. At the time I bought the Substance vid I think I was just happy to finally get to the see the TPK vid in its entirety. I’d previously only had a couple of minutes of it recorded off BBC2’s Whistle Test when a brief section of it was shown in 1985 around the time it and Low Life were released. All the videos ( well except, again for the BM 83 one) eventually turned up on the Best Of VHS . I think the only single never to have a video , either at the time of release or later efforts like the Temptation and Ceremony ones on Item is Thieves Like Us. Oh and Murder has never had a vid made for it either come to think of it.Well, maybe there’s fan made ones but certainly not any official vids. In addition, I'm not aware of official videos for Procession, Sub-Culture, Someone Like You or Guilt is a Useless Emotion either...
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I think that Everything Has Gangrene covers Procession. Subculture doesn't have a vid either but it's about wanking so maybe better that way. The other songs are not really official singles. Edited by user 03 October 2021 10:09:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy
In addition, I'm not aware of official videos for Procession, Sub-Culture, Someone Like You or Guilt is a Useless Emotion either...
Oops crikey yes you're absolutely correct.I completely forgot about all those, bizarrely.
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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse I think that Everything Has Gangrene covers Procession. Subculture doesn't have a vid either but it's about wanking so maybe better that way. The other songs are not really official singles. I disagree.
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Originally Posted by: Fotz If I remember correctly, the Substance 1989 VHS was released in September that year. Discogs says 23 May 1989, but I got my hands on it in late July / early August. I spent that summer in Texas doing field work, an hour away from the nearest city (Beaumont). I would drive in on weekends, and they had a Camelot Music in their mall. I bought the Substance VHS there. When I got back to the little town where I was staying I had access to a VCR, and it was the first time I'd seen most of those videos. I was absolutely blown away by The Perfect Kiss. I went back to my home state in late August, before the Fall semester started, and I got Run 2 after my return. My local shop imported lots of stuff, so I got it the week of release or very shortly thereafter. Edited by user 03 October 2021 17:07:44(UTC)
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dont foget about video 586.
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Originally Posted by: negative1 dont foget about video 586.
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-1 I would say the footage of the Hacienda the track was paired with originally counts as a video in as much as the track was not originally a single anyway. Not counting The Peter Saville Show Soundtrack either, which you could argue is in the same vein (music released on a single format though it was created for a different purpose).
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Nope, Video586 ain't a boner fide NO single. It was released on a weird label when they weren't even talking to each other. let alone promoting. How the fuck could they have done a vid for 25 minutes of 'pap'? I know some ''''''''people'''''''' were bemoaning its omission from 'Singles', but could you honestly have sat through this bullshit in the midst of that clutch of classic early 45s? I'da been racing for 'skip' every fucking time.
I'd say that by Item, all the songs had official vides, albeit some of them twenty years late, except Thieves Like Us ad Subculture.
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