I provide these unsolicited setlist recommendations for the current lineup of New Order, with explanations. What are your recommendations?

1. Primitive Notion - of the songs recorded in the last 15 years, I am dumbfounded why this one has not been played live (as far as I can tell). It has a little bit of everything and is probably one of the best songs on Get Ready in my opinion. With two guitars and Gillian available to play the snyth line, I would think this would be great live.

2. Broken Promise - three guitar attack and would be completely awesome. Vocally I am not sure Bernard would need to change the key on it and would be a nice change up to throw into the set.

3. Everyone Everywhere - in the past I read that Bernard stated the chords were tricky to play live. With Phil able to tackle that, I think it could work and again, not sure much needs to be done with the vocals. I've always loved this one live and think it would be a welcome addition to the set (sub or rotate it in for World).

4. Someone Like You - with the focus on getting back in touch with the electronic sound, I cannot think of a better song to uncork in the set. Again, another song they've not played live, but I think with Gillian in the fold, it could be done and would very fun tucked into the set towards the end before launching into the end.

5. Everything's Gone Green - I really think this one is crying out for a reworking, much like 586, it could be something glorious to behold and nestled in with Temptation it could really stand out in the set. It would also conceivably allow them to consider rotating BLT or TF in and out on a nightly basis.

These are as stated unsolicited setlist ideas/recommendations/thoughts. Are there songs I would rather hear than these? Sure, I'd peronally love TLU, but given the comments I've seen Bernard is not a huge fan of the live arrangement, and thus, I'm not sure it will see the light of day again. Same goes for almost anything off Technique, but again, not sure where the band is on those tracks. The above are songs I think the band should try out and see if they work. I'd love to see them get to a point where they can pull from a mix of 30-35 songs. Just some random thoughts at 6am as I read the setlist from last night....

I wouldn't argue with any of those additions. Id add Lonesome Tonight. Its one of their finest songs IMO. I think they could make that work live and be really powerful.

Id also add This Time of Night too. I love the dark mood of this song.

Every Little Cunts

Setlist threads are always popular and I'd like to suggest a formula to construct your ideal set. Choose 16 tracks from the following:

10 tracks drawn from the 8 original LP's (you can ignore an album if you want more tracks from another).

5 non-album tracks (single, soundtrack, compilation, Lost Sirens, etc.)

1 Joy Division cover (surely this is enough)

Also, a 2 track medley counts as two tracks, for you sneaky old-timers!

Here's my first draft:

Here to Stay
Regret
Sub-Culture
Waiting For the Sirens' Call
Dream Attack
Singularity
Ceremony
Your Silent Face
Age of Consent
Mr. Disco
Vanishing Point
Bizarre Love Triangle
Face Up
Love Will Tear Us Apart

encore:

Lonesome Tonight
Temptation

Some would rather it wind up in the Indian Ocean!

I don't hate it (like the Richard X mix quite a bit). But don't yearn to hear it performed live. Some tracks I love didn't make my list (Leave Me Alone, Love Less and 1963, for example) due to the fact that they're not as effective in the live setting.

Knew I could count on you to raise the JET flag high. I'll never forget that one shining moment when Ana came on stage in NYC. I think the song should be frozen in that moment. The last time I saw Hook with the band, the last time I heard it live.....when I really wanted Who's Joe.....

I'd also go with EGG, and Lonesome Tonight.... and would love to hear The Village - now that Gillian's back I'm sure they could make a decent fist of one of my all-time favourite album tracks.

Open with Ultraviolence.

Why torture yourselves? It's pretty obvious that the band are either not interested enough to care about changing the setlist or are simply too lazy to re-learn anything new. Playing festival slots gives them the perfect excuse to do this because these are the sets where they are expected to just play the hits anyway. Nice of them to play a new song ahead of its release but I'm sure that most fans would rather hear something, anything, from Technique.

Hooky plays most of the songs you lot are requesting with a lot more passion and vigour than this lineup of N.O ever will. And for a fraction of the price.

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I understand the "It's not New Order without Hooky" sentiment that some hold. But to suggest that The Light are somehow more valid than the current lineup is ludicrous.

Cynicism notwithstanding, Al - it's a 'brand name' that Hooky voluntarily left in 2007 - he may have helped build it up, but he still seems very bitter that he has (thus far) failed to tear it down again.

BL and The Light are not a fair comparison, irrespective of ticket prices or venue size - BL promoted an album of entirely new material with some NO/JD/BS solo tracks for the fans who bothered to show up; in contrast The Light are a textbook definition of a tribute act - with exactly fuck all original material, and in my opinion, roughly the same quantity of credibility.

But, each to their own...

Because Peter Hook was the non-singing bass player in those bands for 30 years (with very few exceptions, DNE and Interzone), not the lead vocalist who wears a bass as a stage prop.

If he was performing the same role in the Light as he did in JD/NO, I'd be less critical, but to voluntarily leave the band he had been part of for 30 years only to get some session musos and bass-playing son to help you pretend you are the singer of the band you were in and then tour said former band's albums track-by-track....not much dignity there IMO.

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