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New Order's big mistake was not signing to Miller when he first tried to sign them in the early 1990's. I remember saying at the time that the only home I could see New Order in a post Factory world was Mute - A bit like Factory, but had the business nous that Wilson et al didn't have - Instead they signed to London Records, which was a creative disaster. The band went for the cash, but I can understand in a way, but they paid a heavy price for that. Better late than never, as they say.
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Originally Posted by: Midnight Blue  Not sure if Depeche Mode is still signed to Mute, but it would be a dream come true for me if they did a joint tour together! This was actually rumoured in '93. Let's look forward to 637 more compilations. Edited by user 03 October 2014 00:40:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse
Let's look forward to 637 more compilations.
You know what, Mute could actually make the Recycle Project become true.
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Originally Posted by: Ruined in a day Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse
Let's look forward to 637 more compilations.
You know what, Mute could actually make the Recycle Project become true. Maybe, after releasing 8 more albums and 40 singles. Warners still control all the back catalogue so far.
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Originally Posted by: Midnight Blue Not sure if Depeche Mode is still signed to Mute, but it would be a dream come true for me if they did a joint tour together! Depeche Mode departed Mute for Columbia a while back. I think the EMI deal, albeit lucrative for Daniel Miller, resulted in Mute being asset stripped of most of their key players. So maybe the dream just died. Hope you're well MB, btw.
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Originally Posted by: Ruined in a day Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse
Let's look forward to 637 more compilations.
You know what, Mute could actually make the Recycle Project become true. Maybe, after releasing 8 more albums and 40 singles. Warners still control all the back catalogue so far. Beat me to it. So New Order retain a relationship with Warners and in particular Rhino - the specialist back catologue arm of Warners.
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Originally Posted by: komakino They signed to London Records, which was a creative disaster. London's approach was ham-fisted, mercenary and, like anal sex, fucking shit. But even I don't think you can blame them for New Order's repeatedly going crap. In '93 their heart clearly wasn't in it anyway, and Bernard admitted a lot of the promotional work was because 'London view NO as something of an investment.' Maybe I'm missing something painfully obvious, but I don't see how a record label is directly responsible for the quality / quantity of its bands' music...? Edited by user 03 October 2014 22:22:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Originally Posted by: komakino They signed to London Records, which was a creative disaster. London's approach was ham-fisted, mercenary and, like anal sex, fucking shit. But even I don't think you can blame them for New Order's repeatedly going crap. In '93 their heart clearly wasn't in it anyway, and Bernard admitted a lot of the promotional work was because 'London view NO as something of an investment.' Maybe I'm missing something painfully obvious, but I don't see how a record label is directly responsible for the quality / quantity of its bands' music...? Other than London Records paying the band members all of the money that Factory owed them - a fact they seemed to have forgot when they criticised their former label on a regular basis - going to a major like London was no better than the band going to a major in 1979/80 when the were Joy Division. They're just not a major label band and I remember how my heart sunk when I heard the had signed to London. It was an easy option as the band were in a perilous state and lacking a certain degree of creativity, so £'s were the headline, but I was always thought it would be bad for New Order and it way it was. London Records weren't really interested in New Order in their '93 version or developing the band. The only wanted one thing and they got it - The back catalogue. Hopefully Mute will give them more creativity and self esteem. We shall see... :)
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