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Who's Joe?  
#26 Posted : 23 June 2015 15:20:18(UTC)
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Bought my box set last night for a robust $115 in the US. Very excited by the promo and the hope that comes with a new release. What makes it better, in theory, for me is the 11 tracks, plus 11 extended mixes/versions of them. I think about how tight the 4 minute version of TPK is and then how glorious the full version is, and can only hope we are getting serious extended versions. Plus, one can hope for one of the 200 signed boxes....Big Grin

Additionally, does anyone else think the teaser is Singularity? I listened to the live version again against the teaser and think it is. Or is it just me?
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#27 Posted : 23 June 2015 15:36:36(UTC)
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No that keen on the artwork if i'm honest but let's see what the music is like.Think i like it even less than the WFTSC "No" artwork though the original one with the girl in the river that was shelved because of the Tsunami i did like and it was a shame they didn't go with that one.The last sleeve that truly blew me away was the Low Life one.Saville never really topped that one for me.

Don't really have a problem with the title. I don't mind it.


Peter Saville really blew it in 2001 with Smiths-like packaging of Get Ready and the singles. This one reminds me of the Windows-95 Paintbrush: we used to doodle such things out of boredom. I know that point is ridiculous but still, really??


Once a design professor of a University from Rio de Janeiro who is a big Saville's fan explained in a forum the "possible message" behind the artwork of "Get Ready". It was something like "the image (and even the band) doesn't matters, just pay attention to the music". There's some elements in the artwork that suggests this. We have a top model on the front cover (Nicolette Krebitz), but she got an anti-glamorous / anti-fashioned style and ruined clothes; she's also filming instead to be filmed / photographed as usual for a model; and there's no band's name or identification, just a red bar. Conceptually nothing to do with Smiths really.


Correcto, Aracri.....I recalled reading somewhere that Peter Saville explained the idea behind the GR artwork - that New Order fans have a unique way of identifying the band's items, almost like having their own language.... therefore by having no words on the album cover, instead inserting a red bar or green bar is effective enough to reach out to the fans.

By the way Nicolette Krebitz is def not a 60s or 70s icon, so no way Saville's taking any cues from The Smiths cover art....Smile
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#28 Posted : 23 June 2015 16:12:47(UTC)
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No i'm pretty sure the money won't be taken before the album's despatched, that's usually how these things work.I've ordered the deluxe and no sign of the money gone out of my account yet and am sure it won't til the album's released.



Thank you for that. I know that's usually the way companies such as Amazon etc work but I was a bit unsure with this one. I wanted a bit of flexibility seeing as the release is still 3 months away. I'm going to order it now then because I would love to be lucky enough to get a signed copy so there's no point ordering it from anywhere else. I note some places such as Rough Trade are advertising the vinyl box set but there's no price listed on that specific item yet, whereas there is with all other formats? It will be interesting to see.

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#29 Posted : 23 June 2015 16:33:20(UTC)
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Oh Lord. I just read this with regards to the deluxe box set:

"All orders receive Music Complete HD and MP3 digital files on the official release date 25th September.
THE ACTUAL BOX SET WILL DISPATCH EARLY NOVEMBER.
Instant grat download of first single available in August.
Please note: Price does not include postage and packing."

So this makes it over 4 months away now. And if the first single's dropping in August, I suppose they're going to be taking money from us before this?

I've ordered it anyway. Smile

Interestingly, I selected courier delivery at £4.70 and I was only charged £3.95. Bargain!

Edit: And yes, they took the money straight from my account, which I'm now slightly narked about seeing as I won't be seeing anything for my money for a while.

Edited by user 23 June 2015 16:48:09(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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ROCKET MICK on 27/06/2015(UTC)
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#30 Posted : 23 June 2015 21:40:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
Oh Lord. I just read this with regards to the deluxe box set:

"All orders receive Music Complete HD and MP3 digital files on the official release date 25th September.
THE ACTUAL BOX SET WILL DISPATCH EARLY NOVEMBER.
Instant grat download of first single available in August.
Please note: Price does not include postage and packing."

So this makes it over 4 months away now. And if the first single's dropping in August, I suppose they're going to be taking money from us before this?

I've ordered it anyway. Smile

Interestingly, I selected courier delivery at £4.70 and I was only charged £3.95. Bargain!

Edit: And yes, they took the money straight from my account, which I'm now slightly narked about seeing as I won't be seeing anything for my money for a while.



Ah bugger yer right. Hadn't freakin noticed either that the box set isn't til November! Bummer. And have also just found out the money has been taken from my account too. Was not expecting that. A bit naughty that.

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#31 Posted : 23 June 2015 21:54:32(UTC)
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Oh hang on, just looked at the site again and it says the deluxe will be released on 25th September


"Music Complete - Deluxe Vinyl Box Set
£65.00
Release Date: 25 Sep 2015 "
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#32 Posted : 23 June 2015 23:46:16(UTC)
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Oh hang on, just looked at the site again and it says the deluxe will be released on 25th September


"Music Complete - Deluxe Vinyl Box Set
£65.00
Release Date: 25 Sep 2015 "


It doesn't state it until you click on the summary:

"SUMMARY
8 piece deluxe vinyl collection.
New album on double clear vinyl.
Extended versions of all 11 brand new tracks on 6 pieces of vinyl.
Red / Blue / Yellow / Grey / White vinyl 12”s plus 1 sided black etched vinyl.
Art Direction by Peter Saville.

200 copies will be signed by all 5 members of New Order; the signed editions will be dispatched at random and are exclusive to the New Order store.

All orders receive Music Complete HD and MP3 digital files on the official release date 25th September.
THE ACTUAL BOX SET WILL DISPATCH EARLY NOVEMBER.
Instant grat download of first single available in August.
Please note: Price does not include postage and packing."
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#33 Posted : 24 June 2015 00:42:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
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Oh hang on, just looked at the site again and it says the deluxe will be released on 25th September


"Music Complete - Deluxe Vinyl Box Set
£65.00
Release Date: 25 Sep 2015 "


It doesn't state it until you click on the summary:

"SUMMARY
8 piece deluxe vinyl collection.
New album on double clear vinyl.
Extended versions of all 11 brand new tracks on 6 pieces of vinyl.
Red / Blue / Yellow / Grey / White vinyl 12”s plus 1 sided black etched vinyl.
Art Direction by Peter Saville.

200 copies will be signed by all 5 members of New Order; the signed editions will be dispatched at random and are exclusive to the New Order store.

All orders receive Music Complete HD and MP3 digital files on the official release date 25th September.
THE ACTUAL BOX SET WILL DISPATCH EARLY NOVEMBER.
Instant grat download of first single available in August.
Please note: Price does not include postage and packing."


Ahhhh... right. I see now. What a bloody bugger. Oh well.November it is then for the deluxe.Still a bit miffed about the money going out of my account months beforehand though. Got to pay for it sometime anyway, obviously, but i wasn't expecting that.Thanks for bringing this to may attention.

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ROCKET MICK on 27/06/2015(UTC)
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#34 Posted : 24 June 2015 04:26:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Who' Go to Quoted Post
Bought my box set last night for a robust $115 in the US. Very excited by the promo and the hope that comes with a new release. What makes it better, in theory, for me is the 11 tracks, plus 11 extended mixes/versions of them. I think about how tight the 4 minute version of TPK is and then how glorious the full version is, and can only hope we are getting serious extended versions. Plus, one can hope for one of the 200 signed boxes....Big Grin

Additionally, does anyone else think the teaser is Singularity? I listened to the live version again against the teaser and think it is. Or is it just me?


Yeah, defo Singularity.



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ROCKET MICK on 27/06/2015(UTC)
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#35 Posted : 24 June 2015 04:28:30(UTC)
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Rumours of a pre-release EP called "Lyrics Incomplete" are truly unfounded.


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On a serious note, I hope the long delay has meant Barney has afforded some time to write some better lyrics other than the "hey now man, where you been, see that stray dog on the floor, blah blah blah".

I know its part of the charm (yawn), its not his forte (yawn), its all about the music (yawn) etc but a bit of variety on word play would be appreciated.

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ROCKET MICK on 27/06/2015(UTC)
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I wonder how long will it be before we hear a single or something, waiting till sept to hear something seem too long for me.Frown
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ROCKET MICK on 27/06/2015(UTC)
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#38 Posted : 24 June 2015 05:15:37(UTC)
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I wonder how long will it be before we hear a single or something, waiting till sept to hear something seem too long for me.Frown


Well from the sounds of things it will be August.

That's only really just over a month away.
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ROCKET MICK on 27/06/2015(UTC)
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#39 Posted : 24 June 2015 06:06:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LostSiren Go to Quoted Post
Music Complete makes it sound like it's their last album. Other than that (and I hope it's not!) exciting all around


Yes the title is a bit ominous.
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#40 Posted : 24 June 2015 06:09:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
Does anyone know, if you order the £65 vinyl box set from the New Order store, will they take the money from your account now, or just prior to despatch?


They took it from my account immediately (U.S. order). I guess they prefer money in the bank from the get-go.
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#41 Posted : 24 June 2015 08:03:35(UTC)
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I ordered the cd and they billed me right away.

I decided to wait until the 25th and find out from you people's if they let you download the extended versions. And if they do, I will order the box set then.
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I note today that the details of the box set are no longer showing on Rough Trade. Just the CD and black vinyl/clear vinyl versions. According to Mute...

"The box will be limited, but it is still in development stage.
We are hoping the box set will ship a lot earlier, unfortunately, due to the current problems getting vinyl manufactured, we just couldn’t guarantee it being ready earlier.
You will get the album on release date digitally."

Better get those orders in. Not sure how many are going to be produced. I suspect they are currently gauging interest. Hopefully it will ship sooner than expected.
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I wonder how long will it be before we hear a single or something, waiting till sept to hear something seem too long for me.Frown


Well from the sounds of things it will be August.

That's only really just over a month away.



Radio stations start play upcoming new single releases 5 or 6 weeks before don't they? So could be hearing something in a few weeks timeSmile
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A few comments...

1. Simply "Complete" would have been a better title.

-Mike


No cos then Hooky would do 63971 interviews saying, 'It ain't fucking complete New Order. It fucking ain't fucking complete cos I fucking ain't fuckin' in 'it you fucking fuckers.'
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"Music Complete" sounds like a bit of a Kraftwerk rip-off.


New Order a Kraftwerk rip-off? Surely not.
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I used to wonder if you were related to Bob Monkhouse but now I'm thinking maybe Jack Dee.


Two of my all-time favourites! When I was 16 I wanted to be Jack Dee... Two years ago I wanted to be Jack Dee again, but for different reasons: http://www.liverpoolecho...-capsizes-during-3326070 - "My helmet is covered in scratches..."
Quite honestly I'm just chuffed there's a proper release date. I've always been wary of the band's notriously vague interviews - gimme an actual date and I might wake up. New albums from NO AND PIL in the same month? That's like my grandmother's old chair. it ROCKS.
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On a serious note, I hope the long delay has meant Barney has afforded some time to write some better lyrics other than the "hey now man, where you been, see that stray dog on the floor, blah blah blah".

I know its part of the charm (yawn), its not his forte (yawn), its all about the music (yawn) etc but a bit of variety on word play would be appreciated.



"It's like plastic, we bend easy"...?
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In case anyone cares, Mute Bank also has the standard versions of the new album up for pre-order. For the Mute collector nerds here, the catalog number will be STUMM 390.

-Mike
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A few comments...

1. Simply "Complete" would have been a better title.

-Mike


No cos then Hooky would do 63971 interviews saying, 'It ain't fucking complete New Order. It fucking ain't fucking complete cos I fucking ain't fuckin' in 'it you fucking fuckers.'


Hence the beautiful irony that could have been had they just used "Complete" as the title.

-Mike

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Or will it be out 'sooner than you think'.

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