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#76 Posted : 25 September 2015 05:34:02(UTC)
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I am amazed, this album is sensational!! Easily their best album since Technique, and the best album to come out this decade!!!
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#77 Posted : 25 September 2015 05:51:34(UTC)
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Downloaded album from iTunes. it says its "mastered for iTunes" whatever that means. I couldn't find the CD as the record shops have all gone and didn't get arse in gear to order from Amazon or New Order store.

I love the variety and sounds. The Game sounds fantastic. I love the combination of fast verse and slow chorus (have NO done that before?). Just listening to Nothing but a Fool for first time. Wow!

I don't think theres a weak song so far and all tracks could be singles. except the weird Stray Dog. but I cant judge that until ive heard the whole album from start to end in full context.

I can hear bits of low life, technique and raise the pressure as I listen.

well done New Order. still my favourite band of all time.
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#78 Posted : 25 September 2015 05:52:46(UTC)
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Downloaded album from iTunes. it says its "mastered for iTunes" whatever that means. I couldn't find the CD as the record shops have all gone and didn't get arse in gear to order from Amazon or New Order store.

I love the variety and sounds. The Game sounds fantastic. I love the combination of fast verse and slow chorus (have NO done that before?). Just listening to Nothing but a Fool for first time. Wow!

I don't think theres a weak song so far and all tracks could be singles. except the weird Stray Dog. but I cant judge that until ive heard the whole album from start to end in full context.

I can hear bits of low life, technique and raise the pressure as I listen.

well done New Order. still my favourite band of all time.
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#79 Posted : 25 September 2015 06:14:44(UTC)
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Well I got up early this morning to buy and download the album and I have to say I like it.

Every time the bass kicks in, though, I can't help but imagine them laughing in the studio "Go on, a bit more, he'll fucking hate it!"


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#80 Posted : 25 September 2015 06:20:32(UTC)
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Going to take a few listens as it's well over an hour long. Hard to believe that's double the length of Movement!

Also only 1 out of 11 songs that is shorter than 5 minutes...going to be interesting to see how long the extended versions are when the box set drops..

FACT OF THE DAY
Only one New Order studio album has zero songs longer than 5 mins - and that's Republic
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#81 Posted : 25 September 2015 06:24:03(UTC)
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Overall it's really enjoyable, but it's as if they've had lots of different musical ideas and not known howf confidence, which felt lacking in the last 3 albums. It had become very noticeable that Hooky insisted on having an intricate bass solo on most of their output, thinking that was the thing that made them New Order (see Hellbent for a particularly egregious example of unnecessary complexity thrown in for the sake of it), whereas it always worked best when it was a lead rhythm piece (Sunrise, AoC, Transmission, TPK etc.). Removing that need for him to be a star turn in every song frees the whole band up to do something more interesting, bringing in that style of bass when it suits the track.
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Yeah, its done perfectly in the first transition early in Plastic.
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#82 Posted : 25 September 2015 06:33:33(UTC)
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Going to take a few listens as it's well over an hour long. Hard to believe that's double the length of Movement!

Also only 1 out of 11 songs that is shorter than 5 minutes...going to be interesting to see how long the extended versions are when the box set drops..

FACT OF THE DAY
Only one New Order studio album has zero songs longer than 5 mins - and that's Republic



Super long. I love long mixes but sometimes (done right) I do like a nice edit. Not if its hacked up but if Richard X were to make some shorter edits i'd be very happy.

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#83 Posted : 25 September 2015 06:38:17(UTC)
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First listen: an absolute corker of an album.

New Order back on form Smile
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#84 Posted : 25 September 2015 07:17:12(UTC)
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Sometimes I feel blessed to have a job that involves a lot of walking around, a lot of manual work and no need to interact with anybody.
So since the early morning I've listened to the record 6 times. And the Guardian's football podcast once. Podcast was below average. As for the record:

Restless 8
Singularity 9
Plastic 6/7
Tutti Frutti 7
People on the High Line 4
Stray Dog 7
Academic 7
Nothing but a fool 8/9
Unlearn this hatred 8
The Game 5
Superheated 7

Well played, lass and lads.
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#85 Posted : 25 September 2015 07:18:21(UTC)
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Thirty plus years ago I discovered this band named New Order and my life has not been the same since. To call them my favorite band does not begin to capture the influence this band has had on my life. I have seen them in concert fifteen times in places as varied as Toronto, Chicago, NYC, East Rutherford, and, of course, Washington D.C. I owned every album, single, and extended mix on vinyl, repurchased most (if not all) on CD, and now have repurchased most on iTunes. I have brought all their books both penned by them and about them. I have met every member of the band including the estranged Peter Hook (dj’ing in Denver), and the rest of the band (including new members) a couple of years ago. I was rendered speechless at meeting my idols as a history of thoughts of what I would say if I ever met them disintegrated in the moment.

I have gone through years of thinking the band was finished including five and four years gaps only to be reinvigorated upon their surprise returns. I had thought I would never hear songs like “The Perfect Kiss,” “Bizarre Love Triangle,” “Age of Consent,” “Ceremony,” and “Temptation” again. Now I hear them in every show in which I see them. I had feared there would be no new music after “Waiting for the Sirens Call” and now I anxiously await my deluxe boxed set of “Music Complete” as I just listened to the full album for the first time on my iTunes download.

And what can I say – it is more than what I dared ever dream. The rumors of a new “Technique” had soared my hopes as that is my favorite album. But this album is more than a new Technique. It is a daring, uninhibited statement of continuing relevance and evolution, striding forward with momentum from past brilliance. It is more than worth the wait (and New Order fans know the full meaning of patience).

These are my thoughts – solely based on a first listen and I still have to listen to the last track. But first impressions are often telling, and my first impressions tell me I will love this album, and it will guide me through the years as other items of New Order’s grand catalog have. “Restless” is this album's “Regret.” Some disparaged it – finding it too complacent. But “Regret” was a grower as well – and it continues to grow and grow. “Restless” will do the same and the fact that it is such a brilliant indictment of the hollowness of our lives today only imbues it with more presence and potency. “Singularity” combines Technique's beats with Low-Life's edge. It opens with Tom Chapman’s sinister bass which hopefully puts an end once and for all with the comparisons to Hooky. Chapman is not Hooky’s replacement. He is an artist in his own right. And Tom Rowland’s production shows why the Chemicals still remain the vital force they are today. “Plastic” displays the band's continued command of the dance floor. “Tutti Frutti” is classic pop tinged with the band's wicked sense of humor. “Nothing But a Fool” is Bernard at his melancholy best. None of the songs are duds or throw aways and many are simply brilliant. This album will resonate for a while.

There should never have been a doubt when “Singularity” and “Plastic” were previewed that this album would deliver. But there are always the doubters, and these doubts were exacerbated when they opened the album with pop-infused reflection instead of storming the dance floor. But they do storm the dance floor, and rock out, and contemplate as well. Perhaps the best line I heard to ever describe New Order was from a Sue Townsend review in the Baltimore City Paper many moons ago – “New Order grabs you by the brain, heart, feet, and crotch” and they do that and more on this album. Until the next masterpiece, I will savor this one.
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#86 Posted : 25 September 2015 07:19:13(UTC)
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First listen: an absolute corker of an album.

New Order back on form Smile


At least two of these will be on God's latest playlist Smile

Nothing But A Fool and Academic brought tears to my eyes as I was out walking - my two year old loved this track on the YouTube snippet and recognised it as soon as I put it on in the house, coming up the stairs all excited as if he knew a friend was with me.
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#87 Posted : 25 September 2015 07:55:54(UTC)
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I think its absolutely fantastic, singularity made the hairs on my arms stick up and its the first time for years a song has caused that to happen!
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#88 Posted : 25 September 2015 09:05:14(UTC)
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My top 3 at the moment are The Game, Superheated, and Nothing but a Fool. But really it's only Stray Dog and Academic I'm skipping as find them less energetic. I'm sure they're grow upon further listens.

Some songs have more hooks than the whole of WFTSC.
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#89 Posted : 25 September 2015 09:19:30(UTC)
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Been reading in the background now for years (haven't posted on here since back on the old server).

Just listened to the album and I honestly haven't felt like this since listening to Technique for the first time in 89.

Initally, track after track, I was thinking they were being brave as sounded totally different and yet still New Order. Then I started thinking they must have known this is going to be a classic because is sounds so good. Totally paid off to me post Hook.

Got to feel for him as his is going to be the only person alive connected to New Order that thinks the album is shit!
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#90 Posted : 25 September 2015 09:58:07(UTC)
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Wow, just wow. I really didn't think it was possible for New Order, in 2015, to release this album.

I'll let you in on a little secret: I'd completely lost faith in them. I kept on going to gigs and supporting my favourite band, but deep down, I thought post factory, they were pretty much creatively dead. Apart from a couple of wistful reminders of their former glory (Regret, Crystal), their main staple post '92 had been disappointment. But I take it all back, because Music Complete is absolutely fantastic. I'm literally over the moon. It's like having old friends back who you haven't seen in years. Who would have thought they could still surprise us after all these years eh? God bless New Order!

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#91 Posted : 25 September 2015 11:30:48(UTC)
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Wow, just wow. I really didn't think it was possible for New Order, in 2015, to release this album.

I'll let you in on a little secret: I'd completely lost faith in them. I kept on going to gigs and supporting my favourite band, but deep down, I thought post factory, they were pretty much creatively dead. Apart from a couple of wistful reminders of their former glory (Regret, Crystal), their main staple post '92 had been disappointment. But I take it all back, because Music Complete is absolutely fantastic. I'm literally over the moon. It's like having old friends back who you haven't seen in years. Who would have thought they could still surprise us after all these years eh? God bless New Order!


Having Gillian back and losing Hook has reinvigorated them. I reckon that Barney has broken free into a fresh level of creativity now that he isn't having to pander to Hook's delusions of 'being the best'.
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#92 Posted : 25 September 2015 11:39:26(UTC)
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Really interesting comments! Restless was starting to grow on me (gave it loads of listens) but as an album opener it suddenly clicked, weird I know. On second listen and album is sounding amazing! With Get Ready I was just pleased they were still making music and rated Sirens more. In that time I would have listened to Bernard reading the news with a Casio keyboard backing tape and enjoyed it. Loved all Electronic albums but Bad LT.... not listened to it more than twice. I get Skullcrushed's comments although Republic was the first New Order album that was 'new' to me as a fan. Gig wise Wireless at Hyde Park was the last gig I was really excited about (and it was shit). Think there was a Brixton gig later that year (?) which was amazing. After that I was going more out of habit e.g. Bournemouth and Wembley in 2006. 2012 was alright at Brixton but really stoked for the new tour! Sorry rambling..... anyway loving the album and rejuvenated New Order Online :)
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#93 Posted : 25 September 2015 12:49:43(UTC)
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Oh yes! Never looked forward to an album so much since Republic and that turned out to be disappointing ( quite like it now especially the A side). Not disappointed this time, no siree an absolute triumph! You cannot tell how good an album really is until after a few years. But I reckon I will be listening to this in 20 years when I will be in my sixties, scary thought. Early favourites, Nothing But A Fool, Singularity, tutti fruity, which I thought would be shit, how wrong I was. Like everyone else I cannot believe what a good album this is. I think the reviews from the music press under sold it, more like a 9/10 rather than the 7'ish it's been getting. These upcoming gigs will be electric. As Gillian says she is always on the best albums.
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Originally Posted by: Sauce Go to Quoted Post
Really interesting comments! Restless was starting to grow on me (gave it loads of listens) but as an album opener it suddenly clicked, weird I know. On second listen and album is sounding amazing! With Get Ready I was just pleased they were still making music and rated Sirens more. In that time I would have listened to Bernard reading the news with a Casio keyboard backing tape and enjoyed it. Loved all Electronic albums but Bad LT.... not listened to it more than twice. I get Skullcrushed's comments although Republic was the first New Order album that was 'new' to me as a fan. Gig wise Wireless at Hyde Park was the last gig I was really excited about (and it was shit). Think there was a Brixton gig later that year (?) which was amazing. After that I was going more out of habit e.g. Bournemouth and Wembley in 2006. 2012 was alright at Brixton but really stoked for the new tour! Sorry rambling..... anyway loving the album and rejuvenated New Order Online :)


The Hyde Park 2005 gig was a scream, i really enjoyed it but if you listen to the boot yeah it's a bit of a mess.Brixton Nov 2005 was one of the best NO gigs i've ever attended, a brilliant night. I've never forgotten Bernard's parting quip right at the end :-

"Joy Division New Order forever! Get that tattooed on yer arse!"

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I love the album too, I'm hearing some good disco basslines in there by Tom Chapman, the only mis-step for me is Stray Dog, as Pitchforks review pointed out, it kills the momentum that had builds up with the first 5 songs, tbh I have zero interest in hearing Iggy Pop growling on a New Order album. the only other negative comment I would make is on the quality of the lyrics, at times they grate slightly but I'll get over it, overall it's a triumph I feel.

I bought it today in a local music store, judging from some of the comments I am glad I didn't purchase it from the online store.

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Really interesting comments! Restless was starting to grow on me (gave it loads of listens) but as an album opener it suddenly clicked, weird I know. On second listen and album is sounding amazing! With Get Ready I was just pleased they were still making music and rated Sirens more. In that time I would have listened to Bernard reading the news with a Casio keyboard backing tape and enjoyed it. Loved all Electronic albums but Bad LT.... not listened to it more than twice. I get Skullcrushed's comments although Republic was the first New Order album that was 'new' to me as a fan. Gig wise Wireless at Hyde Park was the last gig I was really excited about (and it was shit). Think there was a Brixton gig later that year (?) which was amazing. After that I was going more out of habit e.g. Bournemouth and Wembley in 2006. 2012 was alright at Brixton but really stoked for the new tour! Sorry rambling..... anyway loving the album and rejuvenated New Order Online :)


The Hyde Park 2005 gig was a scream, i really enjoyed it but if you listen to the boot yeah it's a bit of a mess.Brixton Nov 2005 was one of the best NO gigs i've ever attended, a brilliant night. I've never forgotten Bernard's parting quip right at the end :-

"Joy Division New Order forever! Get that tattooed on yer arse!"


Yeah I enjoyed that gig it was the year magic mushrooms were available legally Big Grin a great session was had that night
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Holy Mother of God the MFiT WAVs sound FANTASTIC cranked up over some quality monitors or headphones ------ really nice production with the mixing and mastering ---
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WOW! What a varied, emotional, energetic, sonic masterpiece.

On most of these tracks I'm feeling the melancholy and emotion of tracks such as 'Leave Me Alone', 'Turn' & 'Dream Attack'. And then there is Singularity; the greatest nod to their JD roots since Ceremony & Sunrise.

If I had to be critical only 'People On The High Line' and to a lesser degree 'Tutti Frutti' do not completely float my boat and go through the motions but even so the production is top notch and work as part of the album.

Ok, the trademark bass is glaringly missing in some places where you just know it would have made sense but Tom gives tracks a fresh feel & sound. The crazy thing is I think Hooky and Tom would even complement each other if both were in the band.

An accomplished album that they should be proud of and that can be regarded as something close to their finest Long Player...IMO only Technique & PCL work better as something you would consider as a well rounded LP start to finish.
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#99 Posted : 25 September 2015 15:59:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Exocet Go to Quoted Post
Restless: 9
Singularity: 10
Plastic: 6
Tutti Frutti: 9
People on the High Line: 7
Stray Dog: 7
Academic: 8
Nothing But a Fool: 8
Unlearn This Hatred: 9
The Game: 8
Superheated: 7

Sleeve design: 7

Total: 9


Fixed that for you.
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Restless: 3
Singularity: 0
Plastic: 0
Tutti Frutti: 0
People on the High Line: 0
Stray Dog: -10
Academic: 1
Nothing But a Fool: 4
Unlearn This Hatred: 0
The Game: 0
Superheated: 2

Sleeve design: 0

Total: 0



You signed up just to add that 'comedy masterpiece' of a review? I really wouldn't have wasted my energy in filling out the registration just for that.


I've yet to find a negative review that I've been able to take seriously, a couple of people on Facebook that were complaining because the LP was 'too electronic' and 'I've never liked Bernard's voice' made me laugh though, like they were desperately looking for anything to criticise it with. There's obviously been the Hooky fans decrying it because he's not on it. But if Hooky = WftSC and no Hooky = MC then I'm afraid there's really no contest. I'm a massive New Order fan, always have been, but I'm not one who's not been critical of their output in the past. This LP is an unadulterated classic NO record from start to finish, I've had it on constantly, I'm not bored with it and my favourite tunes change every time I hear it. There hasn't been a NO record like that since Technique. If anyone's a fan of the band, then there isn't a single valid reason why they won't like this record that I can think of.
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