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#1 Posted : 28 September 2015 11:22:22(UTC)
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Lyrically and vocally I feel this album is better than WFTSC. Most of Barneys lyrics I can hear clearly but there's the usual few bits that I can't work out.

The first line of tutti fruiti sounds like "life is so grazy these days"

Then on academic something about "over the eye remember you" and "the temp is rise, that stops all time, and lovers eyes erupted harmony"


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#2 Posted : 28 September 2015 12:25:10(UTC)
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Tutti Frutti "Life is so crazy these days"

Academic " Oh baby i remember you" and (sounds like) "The tempers rise, that stops all time, and lovers eyes are locked in harmony"


Not completely certain on the tempers rise thingConfused .
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#3 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:19:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
"The tempers rise, that stops all time, and lovers eyes are locked in harmony"


That's what I hear, too.
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#4 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:30:42(UTC)
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On tutti frutti is he really saying "are we a minster of state"? though it could be master or slave, but is not master
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#5 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:39:55(UTC)
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I hear it as "master of save"
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On tutti frutti is he really saying "are we a minster of state"? though it could be master or slave, but is not master



It's "Are we the master or slave?"

This is a great line from Bernard that really struck me immediately when i first heard it.It's so true; at times i feel like a master of my life (when i'm at home or out doing things i want to do) and other times i feel like a slave (when i go to work).Such is life, to have a place to live and enjoy time in that place and to do things you want to do in life you have to work.Unless you win the lottery.
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#7 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:44:00(UTC)
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There was a time
My world belonged to you
But I was so misguided in my youth
I couldn't help but drink this poisoned brew
You had a strange perception of the truth

Oh baby I remember you
Oh baby I remember you

Cos your heart is cold
And your blood runs dry
You'll never see or hear the crashing of the sea
The tempest rise
That stops all time
When lovers eyes are locked in harmony

I was aware that danger lay ahead
And I couldn't bear
This stranger in my head
Have you got a face
Have you got a soul
Well he ain't got nothing
Not even a hole
I gave up trying
A long time ago
And your fate was designed
But you didn't know

Oh baby I remember you

Cos your heart is cold
And your blood runs dry
You'll never see or hear the crashing of the sea
The tempest rise
That stops all time
When lovers eyes are locked in harmony

(From the lyrics sheet with JP release)
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#8 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:30:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tf1987 Go to Quoted Post
(From the lyrics sheet with JP release)


Take that with a grain of salt, though - Japanese lyrical inserts are frequently wrong. New Order have never printed the lyrics to any songs in any albums, so someone had to sit around and make a best guess, same as we're doing.
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#9 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:46:42(UTC)
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Well, they were in all caps and I remember in BL's album, the liner notes said they got the lyrics from the band. Basically the band or the record company gave the JP record company the lyrics.
That's what they do these days. In the past they were inaccurate, but not these days. So these are more accurate than these misheard lyrics. I can try to ask the JP record company Traffic Inc if you dont believe me.
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Originally Posted by: tf1987 Go to Quoted Post
Basically the band or the record company gave the JP record company the lyrics. That's what they do these days. In the past they were inaccurate, but not these days.


Oh. Then take what *I* said with a grain of salt. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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“You've got me hanging, like a berk out on a wire”

You'd think it was “bird”, but I really hear it as “berk” every time, which actually makes perfect sense in the context of the song, even if very unexpected.

American's might need to look that word up…
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ROCKET MICK on 29/09/2015(UTC)
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I asked the Japanese record label Traffic(the record label they're signed to in Japan) about the lyrics sheet, and they confirmed that it's official. So it's not misheard lyrics- they officially got it.
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#13 Posted : 01 October 2015 02:32:04(UTC)
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it would be nice to have the lyrics of all the songs. I am surprised it's not on the official website or anything.
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#14 Posted : 01 October 2015 03:11:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sage_ Go to Quoted Post
it would be nice to have the lyrics of all the songs. I am surprised it's not on the official website or anything.


Yes although it's always fun to mishear Barneys lyrics.

And Thank Christ there's no "hey there man what ya gonna do?" repeats!

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I found this site that has all lyrics for all 11 songs. However, I found a lot to be wrong or debatable. (Either that or I really can't understand what he's singing)

http://genius.com/albums/New-order/Music-complete
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l always love to be reminded "to keep it true". maybe i'm just 'backdated', and need to lose this hatred . so, i will keep it true, unsing this =jaunty tripe . meanwhile, there are 10 great songs out of 11, and ''stray dog" seems to be a love letter from bernard to his wife.
We're like kestrels
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Originally Posted by: is it bro Go to Quoted Post
I found this site that has all lyrics for all 11 songs. However, I found a lot to be wrong or debatable. (Either that or I really can't understand what he's singing)

http://genius.com/albums/New-order/Music-complete



Oh dear, whoever deciphered a lot of those lyrics needs their frickin ears syringing.


For Restless "But it's not hopeless ,If you take rest" ? Always thought it was "If you take risks" or maybe "If you take less" which both make sense, but "take rest" ?????


Interpretation of Academic is just a joke - "Already, i remember you" is just about an understandable mishearing though wrong. But "You'll never see or hear the crouching of the sea/The tempt at wise had stopped so tight" Crouching of the sea? WTF lol "Tempt at wise" ? Nope, makes no sense whatsoever


Apparently the Italian spoken words at start of Tutti Frutti are

"Tutti frutti
Amore mio
Tutti frutti
No
Non è ancora il momento di entrare.
Non è ancora il momento di…"


And at the end


"Non mi interessa il nome vero
Non mi interessa la vita reale
Quella canzone
E tu? Sei tutti frutti"

Anyone able to translate Italian into English??.......








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I found this site that has all lyrics for all 11 songs. However, I found a lot to be wrong or debatable. (Either that or I really can't understand what he's singing)

http://genius.com/albums/New-order/Music-complete



Oh dear, whoever deciphered a lot of those lyrics needs their frickin ears syringing.


For Restless "But it's not hopeless ,If you take rest" ? Always thought it was "If you take risks" or maybe "If you take less" which both make sense, but "take rest" ?????


Interpretation of Academic is just a joke - "Already, i remember you" is just about an understandable mishearing though wrong. But "You'll never see or hear the crouching of the sea/The tempt at wise had stopped so tight" Crouching of the sea? WTF lol "Tempt at wise" ? Nope, makes no sense whatsoever


Apparently the Italian spoken words at start of Tutti Frutti are

"Tutti frutti
Amore mio
Tutti frutti
No
Non è ancora il momento di entrare.
Non è ancora il momento di…"


And at the end


"Non mi interessa il nome vero
Non mi interessa la vita reale
Quella canzone
E tu? Sei tutti frutti"

Anyone able to translate Italian into English??.......










Bing and Google Translate result:


"Tutti Frutti
My love
Tutti Frutti
no
It is not yet time to enter.
It is not yet time to ... "

"I do not care as true
I do not care about real life
That song
And you? Six tutti frutti "
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Might be my middle aged ears, but Barney's vocals sound lower down in the mix than usual; I can't make out a lot of the lyrics.

His voice has also dropped an octave which makes it easier to sing along to... As long as you can work out the words. Smile
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ROCKET MICK on 02/10/2015(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
Apparently the Italian spoken words at start of Tutti Frutti are

"Tutti frutti
Amore mio
Tutti frutti
No
Non è ancora il momento di entrare.
Non è ancora il momento di…"


And at the end


"Non mi interessa il nome vero
Non mi interessa la vita reale
Quella canzone
E tu? Sei tutti frutti"

Anyone able to translate Italian into English??.......


Bing and Google Translate result:


"Tutti Frutti
My love
Tutti Frutti
no
It is not yet time to enter.
It is not yet time to ... "

"I do not care as true
I do not care about real life
That song
And you? Six tutti frutti "


I did Italian at school. Admittedly that was some time ago now. But I can tell you that 'sei' not only is the number six but is also part of the verb essere (to be). "Tu sei" means You are (like "tu es" in French), in the singular/familiar sense. Which makes more sense than 'six' in this context.
And You? You are Tutti Frutti!

EDIT: Oh also, in the line "Non mi interessa il nome vero", the last three words mean "the real name". So the google/bing translation of "I do not care as true" ain't quite accurate. He's saying: "I don't care about the real name". He may mean YOUR real name in this context, I'm not 100% sure.

And one more. The line: "Non è ancora il momento di entrare" is reasonably accurately translated as "It is not yet time to enter". But in this context I believe 'entrare' can also be translated as "to go". "It is not yet time to go" would perhaps make more sense.

So Debaser translation (ahem!) is more like:

Tutti Frutti
My love
Tutti Frutti
no
It is not yet time to go.
It is not yet time to ... "

"I do not care about the (your?) real name
I do not care about real life
That song
And you? You are tutti frutti

Edited by user 01 October 2015 23:34:22(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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First up I heard the start of the second verse of "Tutti Frutti" as,

I had a beautiful dream/
Full of bitches, so serene

Almost spat out me tea!
But now I think I prefer "my" version Uh oh
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I still can't decipher the last line of chorus in plastic.

Cos you're so on it?

Cos you're so honest?

Cos you're so honoured?

Edited by user 02 October 2015 02:22:22(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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I hear "cos you're so haunted"
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tempers rise

cuz your so modest

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On Restless:

"Due to current studies
The fiscal climate isn't looking good"

I kept hearing, "The fiscal climate isn't fucking good!" I thought this verse was chopped from the single version due to the swearing...
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