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#1 Posted : 30 September 2015 03:47:20(UTC)
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So according to the NO store the release date is 6/11/15. A long wait
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#2 Posted : 30 September 2015 03:54:55(UTC)
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5 weeks & 2 days.

It would be nice if they'd release a few songs in the meantime to help pass the time. I reckon 11 should just about do it. And maybe a few remixes.

What's that? Oh...

;-)
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Originally Posted by: thehim Go to Quoted Post
So according to the NO store the release date is 6/11/15. A long wait



Yeah i noticed that the other day but assumed it had already been mentioned on here somewhere....maybe it hasn't

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#4 Posted : 01 October 2015 03:49:37(UTC)
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Gutted about the wait wanna get my hands on all that lurvely vinyl...
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#5 Posted : 01 October 2015 07:24:48(UTC)
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The boxed set has long versions of the tracks on Music Complete right?

It also contains a download code. Is the download of the extended versions? I want the extended versions but don't have a turntable anymore.
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#6 Posted : 01 October 2015 09:46:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The Hierophant Go to Quoted Post
The boxed set has long versions of the tracks on Music Complete right?

It also contains a download code. Is the download of the extended versions? I want the extended versions but don't have a turntable anymore.


Anyone who purchases the box set gets a download of the standard album, in both mp3 format and lossless FLAC, via an email link.

The download code included in the box is for the extended versions.

Edited by user 01 October 2015 09:49:29(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Originally Posted by: The Hierophant Go to Quoted Post
The boxed set has long versions of the tracks on Music Complete right?

It also contains a download code. Is the download of the extended versions? I want the extended versions but don't have a turntable anymore.



The download was just the album, not the extended mixes.People who had pre ordered the box set were emailed the MP3 and HD download links for just the album last Friday on album release day (though it wasn't an entirely smooth operation, lots of people reported problems etc).There may or may not a download code of the extended mixes inside the box set upon receiving it- the details on NewOrder Now store only says that the extended mixes will be over 6 pieces of vinyl.No mention of a digital versions download link.

Seems to be endless confusion about this box set and the extended mixes, getting rather fed up of it now.

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#8 Posted : 01 October 2015 09:53:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: The Hierophant Go to Quoted Post
The boxed set has long versions of the tracks on Music Complete right?

It also contains a download code. Is the download of the extended versions? I want the extended versions but don't have a turntable anymore.



The download was just the album, not the extended mixes.People who had pre ordered the box set were emailed the MP3 and HD download links for just the album last Friday on album release day (though it wasn't an entirely smooth operation, lots of people reported problems etc).There may or may not a download code of the extended mixes inside the box set upon receiving it- the details on NewOrder Now store only says that the extended mixes will be over 6 pieces of vinyl.No mention of a digital versions download link.

Seems to be endless confusion about this box set and the extended mixes, getting rather fed up of it now.



I checked with Mute a while back who confirmed that the extended mixes would be available via a download code included in the box. I think I mentioned it in one of the album threads back then. Smile

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#9 Posted : 01 October 2015 10:00:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post

I checked with Mute a while back who confirmed that the extended mixes would be available via a download code included in the box. I think I mentioned it in one of the album threads back then. Smile




Oh ok, fair enough.Thanks for the info.

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#10 Posted : 01 October 2015 10:53:26(UTC)
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It would be crazy if the extended versions were only available with, or on the vinyl. I find it hard to believe that they won’t be issued in the other formats even if sometime after the vinyl. (I hope not too long after though)

Otherwise you would have to buy the vinyl which is useless without a turntable, or if you find vinyl is a hassle, to get the code. Oh well I’m trying to downsize.
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Originally Posted by: rosygale Go to Quoted Post
It would be crazy if the extended versions were only available with, or on the vinyl. I find it hard to believe that they won’t be issued in the other formats even if sometime after the vinyl. (I hope not too long after though)

Otherwise you would have to buy the vinyl which is useless without a turntable, or if you find vinyl is a hassle, to get the code. Oh well I’m trying to downsize.


Well, i'd be very surprised if there isn't torrents or whatever available of them with in an hour or two or even sooner of folks receiving the box set.They'll be up on Soulseek in no time. I might give the discs one spin but will probably just listen to the digital versions.I've gone off vinyl a bit lately.I never seem to be able to get my stylus completely clear of fluff despite using the special cleaning fluid and the brush.Same goes for the vinyl discs; i use the special cleaning fluid and cloth to clean the disc before play but halfway through one side of an album the sound becomes dreadful again as dust and fluff just inevitably still magically appear from somewhere. And you have to be so careful taking discs out of the sleeve and handling them.Having said all that i am waiting on delivery of Get Ready and Republic on vinyl!

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#12 Posted : 01 October 2015 12:44:55(UTC)
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Exactly, why tempt us?

A sheep on the stylus, we used to call it. The annoyance of greasy fingerprints and the first little scratch. Trying not to move too fast in case the needle jumps, having to get up at the same point in the song where it sticks every time to nudge it on etc.

I lent my LP of “Hard Days Night” to someone who stored it for a while on top of a radiator. Aargh!
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#13 Posted : 01 October 2015 15:49:29(UTC)
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Using the purchase as an excuse to purchase a turn table. Planning to take the vinyl to me mate's house where he will play them and record it on disc for me. But with the advent of the download I may skip visiting him...then again he has a lot of homebrew.
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#14 Posted : 02 October 2015 01:27:17(UTC)
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Not wanting to piss on anyone's chips here, but...
In the long track-by-track Radio X interview with Bernard (get the podcast on itunes as per the Jo Wiley/Radio 2 thread), he says "Only some of the tracks will be extended".
I thought it might be worth a mention.

...actually he may be saying that only some of the tracks sound better in extended format. Listen from 1.03 to 1.05 on the itunes podcast.

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#15 Posted : 02 October 2015 03:54:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
Not wanting to piss on anyone's chips here, but...
In the long track-by-track Radio X interview with Bernard (get the podcast on itunes as per the Jo Wiley/Radio 2 thread), he says "Only some of the tracks will be extended".
I thought it might be worth a mention.

...actually he may be saying that only some of the tracks sound better in extended format. Listen from 1.03 to 1.05 on the itunes podcast.



Yeah i picked up on that too.But then he did seem slightly clueless about the box set, like i think he said he had no idea when it was coming out.
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#16 Posted : 02 October 2015 04:36:08(UTC)
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Well the summary of the items in the store states the following:

"Extended versions of all 11 brand new tracks on 6 pieces of vinyl".

If this isn't the case I think we'll have grounds for a discount or refund.

I'm sure it will be fine.
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#17 Posted : 02 October 2015 06:09:16(UTC)
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It was a joke… saying that some of the shorter versions were better, so go buy the normal album now… don't wait for the extended versions.

Although, I wouldn't bet against the extended versions hitting a (double) cd now, after hearing that interview… but they'd have to wait 'till the box sets are in people's hands.

Edited by user 02 October 2015 06:10:29(UTC)  | Reason: Everybody makes mistakes, even me…

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I just popped over to the New Order Store and it now says the box will be released 11/20/15....at this rate I'm wondering if it'll be out before their next best of release ( not counting the Singles reissue of course ).
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#19 Posted : 02 October 2015 12:41:15(UTC)
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its not that hard to transfer vinyl. and its not that complicated either with some basic equipment.

the boxset is a bonus. if they want to them on digital or cd, they would say so.

theres a lot of vinyl only mixes for new order (rember the 12x12 set)

anyways, i can wait. the boxset is definitely worth it, even as an art piece.

later
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#20 Posted : 05 October 2015 03:30:41(UTC)
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I’ve ordered the boxset and I’m feeling a bit baffled by this statement that there will be extended versions of all 11 tracks over 6 12” singles

1. That’s 12 sides of vinyl - so what will be on the 12th side?
2. Hard to see how some of these will be extended as virtually every song on the standard release already feels like an extended version.


I won’t be complaining if they are all longer versions, but my main gripe with the standard album is that it’s too long! Big Grin
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post


1. That’s 12 sides of vinyl - so what will be on the 12th side?



Nothing. One disc is one sided black vinyl with the other side being etched.

"8 piece deluxe vinyl collection.
New album on double clear vinyl.
Extended versions of all 11 brand new tracks on 6 pieces of vinyl.
Coloured vinyl 12”s plus 1 sided black etched vinyl.
Packaged in an archival acid free box, using 1300 micron grey white board and a wire stitch. Box is debossed on the lid and base".
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post


1. That’s 12 sides of vinyl - so what will be on the 12th side?



Nothing. One disc is one sided black vinyl with the other side being etched.

"8 piece deluxe vinyl collection.
New album on double clear vinyl.
Extended versions of all 11 brand new tracks on 6 pieces of vinyl.
Coloured vinyl 12”s plus 1 sided black etched vinyl.
Packaged in an archival acid free box, using 1300 micron grey white board and a wire stitch. Box is debossed on the lid and base".


I would bet on the black vinyl being Singularity!
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
I’ve ordered the boxset and I’m feeling a bit baffled by this statement that there will be extended versions of all 11 tracks over 6 12” singles

1. That’s 12 sides of vinyl - so what will be on the 12th side?
2. Hard to see how some of these will be extended as virtually every song on the standard release already feels like an extended version.


I won’t be complaining if they are all longer versions, but my main gripe with the standard album is that it’s too long! Big Grin


I reckon a really long intro on an extended Superheated would be really cool.Kind of in the vein of Thieves Like Us, a long 3 minute intro before Bernard starts singing.
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post


anyways, i can wait. the boxset is definitely worth it, even as an art piece.

later
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Hope the box set is more 'arty' than the sparse (sorry, minimalist) '12 page booklet'.

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#25 Posted : 08 October 2015 01:21:08(UTC)
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I love the idea of extended mixes generally, when done well, and I wish they'd put out "in-house" 12" mixes of singles on the vinyl single b-sides rather than the commissioned rubbish. But listening to Music Complete, which I'm really loving, I can't really see how the can extend some of the tracks effectively. "Tutti Frutti" for example I really like, but seems to be timed perfectly. By just before the last chorus I'm convinced the song should end and they throw the last one out. But I guess we'll just see what happens :)

Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
its not that hard to transfer vinyl. and its not that complicated either with some basic equipment.


It is complicated, and time consuming, and expensive in equipment terms (assuming you don't already have it), if you want to do it *well*. Assuming the label haven't cocked it up, a download code is a MUCH better way to get a digital copy of the mixes, and you'll get something in higher fidelity than the vinyl pressing to boot. Heck I wish they put download codes in CD cases, even ripping CDs is a pain in the arse imho, and can go wrong, and can give you the wrong results without you knowing. (Much amusement at the recent complaining about CDs with pre-emphasis)

Originally Posted by: M1 Go to Quoted Post
Hope the box set is more 'arty' than the sparse (sorry, minimalist) '12 page booklet'.


Yes the booklet felt like a cheap pile of photocopies.

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