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is it bro		#1 Posted : 28 September 2015 11:22:22(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 22/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 224 Location: Gaza Strip Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 291 time(s) in 229 post(s)		Lyrically and vocally I feel this album is better than WFTSC. Most of Barneys lyrics I can hear clearly but there's the usual few bits that I can't work out. The first line of tutti fruiti sounds like "life is so grazy these days" Then on academic something about "over the eye remember you" and "the temp is rise, that stops all time, and lovers eyes erupted harmony"

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Fotzepolitic		#2 Posted : 28 September 2015 12:25:10(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Tutti Frutti "Life is so crazy these days" Academic " Oh baby i remember you" and (sounds like) "The tempers rise, that stops all time, and lovers eyes are locked in harmony" Not completely certain on the tempers rise thing .

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50 Pound Note		#3 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:19:47(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 174 Location: San Francisco Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 274 time(s) in 174 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic "The tempers rise, that stops all time, and lovers eyes are locked in harmony" That's what I hear, too.
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pmep100		#4 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:30:42(UTC)
Rank: Young Offender Groups: Registered Joined: 03/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 44 Was thanked: 53 time(s) in 44 post(s)		On tutti frutti is he really saying "are we a minster of state"? though it could be master or slave, but is not master

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is it bro		#5 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:39:55(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 22/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 224 Location: Gaza Strip Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 291 time(s) in 229 post(s)		I hear it as "master of save"

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Fotzepolitic		#6 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:42:27(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Originally Posted by: pmep100 On tutti frutti is he really saying "are we a minster of state"? though it could be master or slave, but is not master It's "Are we the master or slave?" This is a great line from Bernard that really struck me immediately when i first heard it.It's so true; at times i feel like a master of my life (when i'm at home or out doing things i want to do) and other times i feel like a slave (when i go to work).Such is life, to have a place to live and enjoy time in that place and to do things you want to do in life you have to work.Unless you win the lottery.

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tf1987		#7 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:44:00(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 24/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 6 Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 6 time(s) in 6 post(s)		There was a time My world belonged to you But I was so misguided in my youth I couldn't help but drink this poisoned brew You had a strange perception of the truth Oh baby I remember you Oh baby I remember you Cos your heart is cold And your blood runs dry You'll never see or hear the crashing of the sea The tempest rise That stops all time When lovers eyes are locked in harmony I was aware that danger lay ahead And I couldn't bear This stranger in my head Have you got a face Have you got a soul Well he ain't got nothing Not even a hole I gave up trying A long time ago And your fate was designed But you didn't know Oh baby I remember you Cos your heart is cold And your blood runs dry You'll never see or hear the crashing of the sea The tempest rise That stops all time When lovers eyes are locked in harmony (From the lyrics sheet with JP release)

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50 Pound Note		#8 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:30:56(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 174 Location: San Francisco Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 274 time(s) in 174 post(s)		Originally Posted by: tf1987 (From the lyrics sheet with JP release) Take that with a grain of salt, though - Japanese lyrical inserts are frequently wrong. New Order have never printed the lyrics to any songs in any albums, so someone had to sit around and make a best guess, same as we're doing.
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tf1987		#9 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:46:42(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 24/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 6 Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 6 time(s) in 6 post(s)		Well, they were in all caps and I remember in BL's album, the liner notes said they got the lyrics from the band. Basically the band or the record company gave the JP record company the lyrics. That's what they do these days. In the past they were inaccurate, but not these days. So these are more accurate than these misheard lyrics. I can try to ask the JP record company Traffic Inc if you dont believe me.

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50 Pound Note		#10 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:50:07(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 174 Location: San Francisco Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 274 time(s) in 174 post(s)		Originally Posted by: tf1987 Basically the band or the record company gave the JP record company the lyrics. That's what they do these days. In the past they were inaccurate, but not these days. Oh. Then take what I said with a grain of salt.
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Spittingcat		#11 Posted : 29 September 2015 00:38:24(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 25/08/2015(UTC) Posts: 124 Thanks: 8 times Was thanked: 165 time(s) in 124 post(s)		“You've got me hanging, like a berk out on a wire” You'd think it was “bird”, but I really hear it as “berk” every time, which actually makes perfect sense in the context of the song, even if very unexpected. American's might need to look that word up…

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tf1987		#12 Posted : 01 October 2015 01:12:26(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 24/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 6 Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 6 time(s) in 6 post(s)		I asked the Japanese record label Traffic(the record label they're signed to in Japan) about the lyrics sheet, and they confirmed that it's official. So it's not misheard lyrics- they officially got it.

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Sage_		#13 Posted : 01 October 2015 02:32:04(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 02/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Melbourne, Australia Thanks: 105 times Was thanked: 220 time(s) in 164 post(s)		it would be nice to have the lyrics of all the songs. I am surprised it's not on the official website or anything.

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is it bro		#14 Posted : 01 October 2015 03:11:22(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 22/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 224 Location: Gaza Strip Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 291 time(s) in 229 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Sage_ it would be nice to have the lyrics of all the songs. I am surprised it's not on the official website or anything. Yes although it's always fun to mishear Barneys lyrics. And Thank Christ there's no "hey there man what ya gonna do?" repeats!

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is it bro		#15 Posted : 01 October 2015 06:12:26(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 22/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 224 Location: Gaza Strip Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 291 time(s) in 229 post(s)		I found this site that has all lyrics for all 11 songs. However, I found a lot to be wrong or debatable. (Either that or I really can't understand what he's singing) http://genius.com/albums/New-order/Music-complete

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keepitcoming		#16 Posted : 01 October 2015 06:53:52(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 06/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 407 Location: texas Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 406 post(s)		l always love to be reminded "to keep it true". maybe i'm just 'backdated', and need to lose this hatred . so, i will keep it true, unsing this =jaunty tripe . meanwhile, there are 10 great songs out of 11, and ''stray dog" seems to be a love letter from bernard to his wife.
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Fotzepolitic		#17 Posted : 01 October 2015 19:47:23(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Originally Posted by: is it bro I found this site that has all lyrics for all 11 songs. However, I found a lot to be wrong or debatable. (Either that or I really can't understand what he's singing) http://genius.com/albums/New-order/Music-complete Oh dear, whoever deciphered a lot of those lyrics needs their frickin ears syringing. For Restless "But it's not hopeless ,If you take rest" ? Always thought it was "If you take risks" or maybe "If you take less" which both make sense, but "take rest" ????? Interpretation of Academic is just a joke - "Already, i remember you" is just about an understandable mishearing though wrong. But "You'll never see or hear the crouching of the sea/The tempt at wise had stopped so tight" Crouching of the sea? WTF lol "Tempt at wise" ? Nope, makes no sense whatsoever Apparently the Italian spoken words at start of Tutti Frutti are "Tutti frutti Amore mio Tutti frutti No Non è ancora il momento di entrare. Non è ancora il momento di…" And at the end "Non mi interessa il nome vero Non mi interessa la vita reale Quella canzone E tu? Sei tutti frutti" Anyone able to translate Italian into English??.......

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Andy		#18 Posted : 01 October 2015 19:59:56(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,223 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1668 times Was thanked: 3356 time(s) in 2243 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Originally Posted by: is it bro I found this site that has all lyrics for all 11 songs. However, I found a lot to be wrong or debatable. (Either that or I really can't understand what he's singing) http://genius.com/albums/New-order/Music-complete Oh dear, whoever deciphered a lot of those lyrics needs their frickin ears syringing. For Restless "But it's not hopeless ,If you take rest" ? Always thought it was "If you take risks" or maybe "If you take less" which both make sense, but "take rest" ????? Interpretation of Academic is just a joke - "Already, i remember you" is just about an understandable mishearing though wrong. But "You'll never see or hear the crouching of the sea/The tempt at wise had stopped so tight" Crouching of the sea? WTF lol "Tempt at wise" ? Nope, makes no sense whatsoever Apparently the Italian spoken words at start of Tutti Frutti are "Tutti frutti Amore mio Tutti frutti No Non è ancora il momento di entrare. Non è ancora il momento di…" And at the end "Non mi interessa il nome vero Non mi interessa la vita reale Quella canzone E tu? Sei tutti frutti" Anyone able to translate Italian into English??....... Bing and Google Translate result: "Tutti Frutti My love Tutti Frutti no It is not yet time to enter. It is not yet time to ... " "I do not care as true I do not care about real life That song And you? Six tutti frutti "
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UpDownTurnAround		#19 Posted : 01 October 2015 22:08:21(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 27/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 131 Location: wellington, new zealand Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 145 time(s) in 132 post(s)		Might be my middle aged ears, but Barney's vocals sound lower down in the mix than usual; I can't make out a lot of the lyrics. His voice has also dropped an octave which makes it easier to sing along to... As long as you can work out the words.
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Debaser		#20 Posted : 01 October 2015 23:11:08(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,119 Location: here n there Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 3203 time(s) in 2141 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Andy Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Apparently the Italian spoken words at start of Tutti Frutti are "Tutti frutti Amore mio Tutti frutti No Non è ancora il momento di entrare. Non è ancora il momento di…" And at the end "Non mi interessa il nome vero Non mi interessa la vita reale Quella canzone E tu? Sei tutti frutti" Anyone able to translate Italian into English??....... Bing and Google Translate result: "Tutti Frutti My love Tutti Frutti no It is not yet time to enter. It is not yet time to ... " "I do not care as true I do not care about real life That song And you? Six tutti frutti " I did Italian at school. Admittedly that was some time ago now. But I can tell you that 'sei' not only is the number six but is also part of the verb essere (to be). "Tu sei" means You are (like "tu es" in French), in the singular/familiar sense. Which makes more sense than 'six' in this context. And You? You are Tutti Frutti! EDIT: Oh also, in the line "Non mi interessa il nome vero", the last three words mean "the real name". So the google/bing translation of "I do not care as true" ain't quite accurate. He's saying: "I don't care about the real name". He may mean YOUR real name in this context, I'm not 100% sure. And one more. The line: "Non è ancora il momento di entrare" is reasonably accurately translated as "It is not yet time to enter". But in this context I believe 'entrare' can also be translated as "to go". "It is not yet time to go" would perhaps make more sense. So Debaser translation (ahem!) is more like: Tutti Frutti My love Tutti Frutti no It is not yet time to go. It is not yet time to ... " "I do not care about the (your?) real name I do not care about real life That song And you? You are tutti frutti Edited by user 01 October 2015 23:34:22(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Tony Casanova		#21 Posted : 02 October 2015 00:05:31(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 17/08/2015(UTC) Posts: 22 Location: sweden Was thanked: 32 time(s) in 22 post(s)		First up I heard the start of the second verse of "Tutti Frutti" as, I had a beautiful dream/ Full of bitches, so serene Almost spat out me tea! But now I think I prefer "my" version

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is it bro		#22 Posted : 02 October 2015 02:21:13(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 22/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 224 Location: Gaza Strip Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 291 time(s) in 229 post(s)		I still can't decipher the last line of chorus in plastic. Cos you're so on it? Cos you're so honest? Cos you're so honoured? Edited by user 02 October 2015 02:22:22(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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SJS101		#23 Posted : 02 October 2015 06:48:48(UTC)
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Pyrtwist		#24 Posted : 03 October 2015 17:59:42(UTC)
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NO Fan		#25 Posted : 03 October 2015 22:38:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 11/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 85 Thanks: 19 times Was thanked: 112 time(s) in 85 post(s)		On Restless: "Due to current studies The fiscal climate isn't looking good" I kept hearing, "The fiscal climate isn't fucking good!" I thought this verse was chopped from the single version due to the swearing...

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