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*****		#1 Posted : 01 September 2016 20:08:43(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 14/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 19 Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 21 time(s) in 19 post(s)		Apologies of this has been posted earlier. Sounds nice so far... _ New Order: Singles Quadruple Vinyl Album Remastered Version The box contains: four 180g vinyls, printed inner bags and a 12x12 printed artwork insert housed in a rigid lift-top box with a gold foil leaf design on the cover 9 September 2016 0825646069620 0825646069620 Warner Records 90 (UK) _ Link info: http://petersaville.info/sleeves/2010-2016.html Edited by user 01 September 2016 20:29:37(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Ken Doherty		#2 Posted : 06 September 2016 04:06:09(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 313 Location: London Thanks: 114 times Was thanked: 383 time(s) in 313 post(s)		Wouldn't you think they'd do a deal with Mute and have a Singles album with the singles from Music Complete on it?

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Kelvin		#3 Posted : 06 September 2016 04:13:41(UTC)
Rank: Young Offender Groups: Registered Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: UK Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 40 time(s) in 36 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Ken Doherty Wouldn't you think they'd do a deal with Mute and have a Singles album with the singles from Music Complete on it? Imagine trying to get a compilation with both pre and post Hooky departure singles past the man himself. No way he'd agree to that.

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GotBlueEyes		#4 Posted : 06 September 2016 07:00:20(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 25/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 152 times Was thanked: 627 time(s) in 338 post(s)		Is this the promo that Kevin Cummins tweeted? https://twitter.com/KCMA...tatus/770562735276957697 A second disk of non-singles, obscurities and cover versions? Has that instrumental of WFTSC ever been released elsewhere?

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M1		#5 Posted : 06 September 2016 14:08:45(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 242 Location: Adelaide Thanks: 109 times Was thanked: 307 time(s) in 242 post(s)		Special!

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Johnny James		#6 Posted : 06 September 2016 14:25:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 451 Location: UK Was thanked: 1037 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Is this the promo that Kevin Cummins tweeted? https://twitter.com/KCMA...tatus/770562735276957697 A second disk of non-singles, obscurities and cover versions? Has that instrumental of WFTSC ever been released elsewhere? That has nothing to do with Singles, I don't think there are any promos for the new Singles release.

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GotBlueEyes		#7 Posted : 07 September 2016 01:28:08(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 25/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 152 times Was thanked: 627 time(s) in 338 post(s)		So any ideas what it is? He clearly said it was a "new promo" It looks lovely!

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Michael Monkhouse		#8 Posted : 07 September 2016 01:37:44(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes It looks lovely! So do the Spice Girls. Don't have to buy the CD. They can't have a definitive Singles collection up to MC cos: 1. Hooky. 2. If they finally manage it, they can't have another 6386 shit ones and would lose money, publicity and a couple of whores. 3. If they finally manage it, fans on this forum would have nothing to talk about in the 876390 years between releases and couldn't get a boner every time something ''''''''''new'''''''''' is announced. Petition at Change.org: Fuck off Michael, WE WANT OUR BONERS.

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Johnny James		#9 Posted : 07 September 2016 01:49:22(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 451 Location: UK Was thanked: 1037 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes So any ideas what it is? He clearly said it was a "new promo" It looks lovely! I think it's a publisher's promo, like this Joy Division one: Discogs entry Hence the rather strange selection of tracks (and remixes tacked on the end). Hardly anyone will get these, Kevin will have got one because they've used his photos. Edited by user 07 September 2016 01:49:59(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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depthcharge		#10 Posted : 08 September 2016 01:22:37(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 325 time(s) in 195 post(s)		Singles LP box is in the house. Just as you'd expect really. The 4x LPs are sleeved in blue leaf design with the original track notes on the reverse. There's the same Dave Quantick liner notes on the back of a vintage band image. Download code included.

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Reluctant commuter		#11 Posted : 09 September 2016 10:17:21(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2015(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: London Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 9 time(s) in 8 post(s)		This old pedant was wondering whether anyone else had noticed the misplaced title on side seven and the omission of the title of 1963 on side 5. It's been a long week!

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morgan1098		#12 Posted : 09 September 2016 11:52:41(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 17/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 9 Location: Colorado Was thanked: 12 time(s) in 9 post(s)		Originally Posted by: depthcharge Singles LP box is in the house. Just as you'd expect really. The 4x LPs are sleeved in blue leaf design with the original track notes on the reverse. There's the same Dave Quantick liner notes on the back of a vintage band image. Download code included. ???? The same liner notes? The ones that describe WFTSC as New Order's latest album? Ugh. They could have at least tagged on a new paragraph at the end. I was hoping for a creative explanation of how I'll Stay With You qualifies as a "single."

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NotAMod		#13 Posted : 09 September 2016 14:00:16(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 671 Location: London, UK Thanks: 180 times Was thanked: 1103 time(s) in 673 post(s)		I picked up both the double CD and vinyl box today. The box looks really nice with the etched/embossed gold leaf. The mastering on the new CDs is much better than the original pressing and the corrected 7" versions are obviously welcome. It was worth it for that. Playing a track titled "Run 2" from an official New Order compilation and the actual single remix playing is a new experience (!) Actually, to be fair it was correctly labelled on the Technique bonus disc back in '08. The only slightly odd thing is the original compilation was released in October 2005 yet the (same) David Quantick liner notes are dated "2006". I can't remember if that mistake was in the original edition or not... In my opinion Hellbent (the Radio Edit) should have been the Lost Sirens track on this compilation as it was the closest thing to a single from the Total compilation back in 2011. Bar a Dutch promo CD ISWY never really qualified as a single. But then again Turn wasn't really a single either. Not a big deal. It took the label a decade but the compilation is improved and hats off to them for doing that (plus vinyl-ising it).

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Fotzepolitic		#14 Posted : 09 September 2016 14:10:28(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Welllll.... if i spot the vinyl box set when i'm in HMV tomorrow i might buy it. From depthcharge's photo i like the blue sleeves for the x4 vinyls and i've always liked that vintage photo (circa 1989 is it? ) We'll see tomorrow if i feel like departing with £40 (+?)

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NotAMod		#15 Posted : 09 September 2016 14:21:22(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 671 Location: London, UK Thanks: 180 times Was thanked: 1103 time(s) in 673 post(s)		The vinyl box-set's £59.99 new from most retailers. EDIT: As Debaser quite rightly points out, it's cheaper on the New Order store. Edited by user 10 September 2016 07:40:11(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Fotzepolitic		#16 Posted : 09 September 2016 14:28:54(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: NotAMod The vinyl box-set's £59.99 new from most retailers. Really ? Oh fuck that then.Like Mr Monkhouse might have or did say they should send the new version out to all those that bought the original Singles in 2005 in compensation for that version being a pile of poo. Jeez where do these fuckers get off?

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Debaser		#17 Posted : 09 September 2016 16:11:05(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		£44.99 + a fiver postage from NewOrderStore. They sent out an email today and I honestly thought the NME quote said "pointless" rather than "peerless" when I glanced at it. I'm guessing that the CD will be about five quid on Amazon in a few months time.

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keepitcoming		#18 Posted : 09 September 2016 23:06:40(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 06/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 407 Location: texas Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 406 post(s)		I hope close range and special are longer and even more wonderful, and maybe there are French horns oboes and mellotrons on some of the instrumentals.and maybe some electronic songs could be grafted into disc #14- feel every beat, warning sign , flicker, some distant memory, prodigal son, late at night, make it happen, etc. And a longer version of such a good thing, and recoil, sabotage, California grass , and transmission in French and Navajo, please, and more lost sirens, that's it.
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Fotzepolitic		#19 Posted : 10 September 2016 00:00:33(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: keepitcoming I hope close range and special are longer and even more wonderful, and maybe there are French horns oboes and mellotrons on some of the instrumentals.and maybe some electronic songs could be grafted into disc #14- feel every beat, warning sign , flicker, some distant memory, prodigal son, late at night, make it happen, etc. And a longer version of such a good thing, and recoil, sabotage, California grass , and transmission in French and Navajo, please, and more lost sirens, that's it.

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Johnny James		#20 Posted : 10 September 2016 02:19:53(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 451 Location: UK Was thanked: 1037 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Reluctant commuter This old pedant was wondering whether anyone else had noticed the misplaced title on side seven and the omission of the title of 1963 on side 5. It's been a long week! Annoying, it wasn't like that on the PDF proofs. Something went wrong at manufacture I guess.

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NotAMod		#21 Posted : 10 September 2016 09:16:34(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 671 Location: London, UK Thanks: 180 times Was thanked: 1103 time(s) in 673 post(s)		The Perfect Kiss appears to be the original 7" edit as opposed to the slightly longer/alternate one we got on Total.

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Michael Monkhouse		#22 Posted : 10 September 2016 10:44:04(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Originally Posted by: keepitcoming I hope close range and special are longer and even more wonderful, and maybe there are French horns oboes and mellotrons on some of the instrumentals.and maybe some electronic songs could be grafted into disc #14- feel every beat, warning sign , flicker, some distant memory, prodigal son, late at night, make it happen, etc. And a longer version of such a good thing, and recoil, sabotage, California grass , and transmission in French and Navajo, please, and more lost sirens, that's it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW7skJLjTJY

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Debaser		#23 Posted : 10 September 2016 11:10:19(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		I like this little promo advert thingy. Anyone remember the floaty leaf they used to promote Singles the first time around? That was really nice.

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Fotzepolitic		#24 Posted : 10 September 2016 11:52:53(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		^ Don't remember a floaty leaf promo thing for the original Singles but i distinctly remember a tv advert for it.Saw it a couple of times, seem to recall it was brief clips from the Regret video but overlayed with a few audio snippets of various New Order hits like True Faith etc Saw the CD in HMV today for £14.Didn't see the vinyl box set though.But anyway, i didn't buy.Maybe when the CD is reduced in price in a few months time.

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depthcharge		#25 Posted : 10 September 2016 22:14:10(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 325 time(s) in 195 post(s)		Originally Posted by: morgan1098 ???? The same liner notes? The ones that describe WFTSC as New Order's latest album? Ugh. They could have at least tagged on a new paragraph at the end. I was hoping for a creative explanation of how I'll Stay With You qualifies as a "single." Yeah one and the same, sadly. But did anyone really expect them to go to any effort to freshen this stuff up? Their track record with box sets and compilations is sloppy to say that least. Imagine a day when a New Order label actually consults some hardcore fans before throwing together another compilation. Free expertise and error correction.

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