Ok ,some may be offended ,but I don't care .
After seeing another magazine book in the grocery store about Tom Petty, I have to comment .
Hooky started singing on movement ,I think, and came back I thought on Fine Time , but it was Bernard. Then Revenge happened and he sang magnificently ,unlike third rate poseurs like petty and Billy Corgan to name a few, and thanks to Andy ,who does stalwart work for this site , and posted about Corgan on another thread, and reminded me of the show where someone, not me ,threw a shoe at corgan, well it was bliss.
Then I read an old Mojo , and Bernard remembered a guy interested in singing for NO after Ian died, but Bernard said the guy liked Steely Dan so no way. What a great story ,unless you like Steely Dan.'
So back to Hooky -- he writes songs that are still wonderful , and guess what ?
My playlist for Tom Petty is Zero, Springsteen - one ,I'm on fire , Sir Reggie the candle up the butt guy , maybe 6 songs, but bernie tampon deserves credit ,too . And how about Queen, I guess i have to maybe get a best of disk and decide if I want to burn the overbite's songs .
In other words , Hooky and his solo career has given the world more great songs than 4 icons of overratedness, to make few .
Just his song Marine ,from Monaco, is better than most attempts by numerous other silly bands,
More on the Mojo article later, loads of great words about The Get Ready sessions, and our heroes, at least they better be ,because the Smashing Pumkins sure aren't
PS - when new order is over, and done there had better be a lot of magazine books in grocery stores about everyone , including Gillian ,Tom, Phil, and by the way why is not Ian so rewarded ,he is a thousand million times better than Tom flipping petty

A well put together "Hooky Solo Works & Collaborations" compilation album would be better than any New Order compilation that only contains work after Technique. He's done nothing worth commenting on for so long now though. Shame. Perhaps he knows he can't begin to match Music Complete as a complete album. I'd like him to try though.


I'm not. Do you have his solo album? Fun, but nothing close to the standard, and interest, of the second Monoco album.

Agreed that Freebass was very MoR… wrong singer… still enjoyed much of it though.

Anyway, love the stuff done with Hybrid, Crystal Method… etc.

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One of the fun things is to intersperse those 90's songs into several cd's of about 15 songs each .Being a Luddite when it comes to playlists ,streaming and random play is too impersonal.I would rather have tangible physical things . So putting some great E Electronic songs with some Monaco songs ,and the God forsaken Revenge songs ( ok ,start with one), and add a dab of TOTAY ( i found one ,hurray,), and some normal pleasant songs from NO ,such as Republic , et voila, a never-ending story , a myriad of possibilities , the band that goes on forever ,pleasing , propelling one to further ecstasy, nirvana, and bliss..
Other news, Nick Mason ,see new Mojo, is prepping for a tour of early PF ,with Barrett songs, and early songs ,perhaps up to DSOTM. How about them Apple's and oranges.
And before I sleep, I must announce that I think I have found an action figure to represent Bernard- it is a 12" Ken doll in a white jumpsuit ,with Texas A and M logo, all it needs is the veritas deer/dog and a falling leaf ,and he will seduce catwoman, thrash villians like the joker, and whack all those dreadful wrestling heroes filling up Wal-Mart shelf space. Ah what a wonderful world, an eternity of New Order and Pink Floyd, cheers

Hooky still co-owns the Factory Club in Manchester doesn't he? Well he does if THIS is still accurate.

I'm pretty sure bouncers are meant to restrain and manage difficult patrons, as opposed to thumping someone in an 8 on 1 situation. I suspect the 'thumpee' was causing trouble, but I'm not convinced that this is how to handle him:

**EDIT** Factory have just posted this on their twitter:

Click pic for full statement

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Yeah that's the impression I got. Doesn't look like he does any day-to-day stuff.



Very good! Are you Hooky's manager?

The story has made it to the front page of the BBC News website today.
I think they're referring to the guy that we see hitting the ground right at the start of the clip (he doesn't get up again) rather than the guy who got thumped for most of the video. Bleeding on the brain is NOT good.

The current security firm (contract now terminated) were employed as the previous security firm were removed due to using excessive force. FAC251 is well known locally for violent door staff.

If P.Hooky wanted to make a statement he could get more involved or walk away but as long as the money keeps rolling in......

I remember on the revenge song Peter sang "It was just a long forgotten feeling", and i liked that voice-a thousand times more than r plant, f mercury, ,or Sting or T Petty or more modern similars.

More important though is the claypool lennon version of Court of the Crimson King- after a couple of listens by old KC last week i had decided that in another 50 years i might try it again, and holy moly the 6 minute CLD version is way more awesome and fun .so why not Peter Hook try getting with the new world music of psychedelia- CLD, Porcupines, Panda or Grizzly Bear, Eno, and the myriad others i should know of but it takes time .
So, listen up New Order. Make friends with Panda and / or Eno , go to Brixton Electric 19th April. Do you want your kids listening to Bieber and swift and kanye drake bruno music instead .Make a sonic superspectacular for the ages ,Peter ..Hooky, make it happen ,make Bernard rueful that he wasn't first, then he will have to get busy and we will have later , as a result
THE psychedelicious and cosmically wonderful 4 cd blast-o-sonic, life changing ,soothing New Order sound , with choral wizardry from the pole star zipline rainbow in curved air toward the divine

I will listen to the Clangers opinion from now on.

from NME:

Peter Hook has announced two special shows which will celebrate the music of Joy Division, with the band’s two albums, ‘Unknown Pleasures’ and ‘Closer’, set to be performed in full.

Hook, who played bass in Joy Division during their four years together, is putting on the two special gigs next year with his band, Peter Hook & the Light – who will celebrate ten years together in 2020.

Titled ‘An Evening with Peter Hook & The Light – Joy Division: A Celebration’, the shows are part of Hook’s 40th anniversary celebrations for both Joy Division albums: ‘Unknown Pleasures’ will turn 40 in June, while ‘Closer’ will reach the milestone in July 2020.

The gigs, which will take place at the O2 Academy Brixton in London on May 15, 2020 and in Manchester at the O2 Apollo on May 16, 2020, will also feature Hook and his band performing “an opening set of New Order material” on both nights.

The two shows will help raise money for the charities CALM and the Epilepsy Society, both in memory of the late Joy Division frontman Ian Curtis.

Peter Hook & The Light will perform the New Order albums ‘Technique’ and ‘Republic’ in full on tour this September – check out their tour schedule below.

September
12 – Dolans, Limerick
13 – Academy, Dublin
14 – Limelight, Belfast
19 – Queens Hall, Edinburgh
20 – Middlesbrough Town Hall, Middlesbrough
21 – Assembly, Leamington Spa

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Quick question, are people still dead angry at Hooky or has that subsided now?

I only recently read Substance and it mellowed me out to ward Hooky a good bit. I mean, I kinda wish I never read the book to begin with - it changed a lot of the image I had of them – but clearly he felt Bernard was pretty selfish and there must be some kernel of truth to it, especially how hurt the other three were with Bernard's rewriting of Republic.

I got pretty sick of Hooky for a while, mostly for his constant outbursts online or in print media. It made him look like a twat and even though Bernard saying pretty much nothing doesn't mean he can't be a twat it was so one-sided Bernard won the 'battle' by default.

Since then, meh, you can't argue Peter Hook & The Light don't do good gigs, fantastic even, and I never subscribed to the view that he shouldn't be doing the gigs he's doing. Why is doing a tour promoting a new album/single for cash less cynical than the album gigs PH&TL do? Particularly since every frigger does the album anniversary shows now, even Primal fucking Scream. Listen to the music, buy a t-shirt, thanks very much.

But I do get the sense he's still hurting about it all.