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Debaser		#1 Posted : 29 April 2019 06:57:39(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		I can't believe it's 20 years since Out Of Control, and the album it was taken from. Anyway, I don't know how serious Mr Simons is about putting that thing on the forthcoming Surrender box set ("we used to just make them for fun"), but I hope he is. Bernard has spoken in the past about all the guitar parts that he wrote for that song, only to see them chopped up in the released version of OOC. It'd be nice to hear more of Bernard's "original" version of the song. Stack.au article

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negative1		#2 Posted : 30 April 2019 16:52:52(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,185 Thanks: 927 times Was thanked: 1773 time(s) in 1187 post(s)		the sasha club mix is 11 minutes, and the sasha instrumental is 13 minutes. you can get them on vinyl, or the japanese cd-single. i figure, this 20 minute version is probably like playing those 2 versions in a row, or similar. later -1

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keepitcoming		#3 Posted : 30 April 2019 22:48:08(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 06/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 407 Location: texas Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 406 post(s)		In this interim all things NewOrder seem far away, and the wishful wistful thinking and hoping for more has begun to diminish ,but not the gratitude that our heroes shunned spandex, and big hair and high pitched whiney crap songs like so many of those kinds of bands wallow in still. Now our heroes are giving us ample time to explore the rest of the world of music . While slogging thru the old prog and esoterica and arcane with no real strong loving feeling for those artsy fartsy times, i found that an old favorite, the Residents had been very busy, 30 more albums worth busy, and much of their later work is amazing ,in both a weird way and in a sane way , and very very wonderful . And, NO has always had a great work ethic including making new songs that we like , and they tour often with awesome shows, and they dearly love us and they probably have a contract to give us a lot more love , but hopefully lots of songs too . So all is well, and for a few months i must focus upon a most interesting band, the Residents .And in a few months maybe all our dreams about NO will come true .
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Johnny James		#4 Posted : 30 April 2019 23:41:50(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 450 Location: UK Was thanked: 1037 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 the sasha club mix is 11 minutes, and the sasha instrumental is 13 minutes. you can get them on vinyl, or the japanese cd-single. i figure, this 20 minute version is probably like playing those 2 versions in a row, or similar. later -1 I think it's more likely to be their own version.

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Debaser		#5 Posted : 10 June 2019 11:34:15(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Debaser I don't know how serious Mr Simons is about putting that thing on the forthcoming Surrender box set ("we used to just make them for fun"), but I hope he is. It turns out he is serious. Originally Posted by: Debaser Bernard has spoken in the past about all the guitar parts that he wrote for that song, only to see them chopped up in the released version of OOC. It'd be nice to hear more of Bernard's "original" version of the song. No luck here I'm afraid. . Was hoping for a Demo version. Seems like a missed opportunity to me, especially as The Chems are both NO fans. Fingers crossed we hear a bit more of Bernard's guitars in the long mix. The Chems announced details of the Surrender Box Set today, although it won't be released until October. Out Of Control - the long version is called: "Out Of Control (21 Minutes Of Madness Mix)". The title presumably inspired by Coldcut. Website link.

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negative1		#6 Posted : 14 June 2019 13:27:23(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,185 Thanks: 927 times Was thanked: 1773 time(s) in 1187 post(s)		looks like they're leaving some of the other mixes of the song on there too. that's odd. later -1

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Ken Doherty		#7 Posted : 19 June 2019 04:59:49(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 313 Location: London Thanks: 114 times Was thanked: 383 time(s) in 313 post(s)		The box set has the Sasha remix of OOC as well as the 21 minutes mix Disc 1 “ Surrender" Music: Response Under The Influence Out Of Control Orange Wedge Let Forever Be The Sunshine Underground Asleep From Day Got Glint? Hey Boy Hey Girl Surrender Dream On Disc 2 - The Secret Psychedelic Mixes Hey Boy Hey Girl Let Forever Be Out Of Control (21 Minutes Of Madness Mix) Flashback Dream On Disc 3 B sides and Remixes as curated by The Chemical Brothers Flash back Scale The Diamond Sky Studio K Power Move Enjoyed Electronic Battle Weapon 4 Out Of Control (Sasha Club Mix) Music: Response (Gentleman Thief Mix) Music: Response (Futureshock Main Response) Hey Boy Hey Girl (Soulwax Remix) DVD: Promo videos: 1. Hey Boy Hey Girl 2. Let Forever Be 3. Out Of Control Glastonbury Festival 2000: 1. Hey Boy Hey Girl 2. Music Response 3. Block Rockin' Beats 4. Song To The Siren 5. Under The Influence 6. Leave Home 7. The Private Psychedelic Reel + 28-page book with new essay by John Savage 4X Kate Gibb art prints The Chemicals website isn't working properly at the moment so no news on pricing but I'm guessing it won't come cheap: I already have the signed Underworld box set pre-ordered for October and that wasn't cheap either, so I'll probably wait until closer to then before I get too excited about this.

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Debaser		#8 Posted : 19 June 2019 05:28:48(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Ken Doherty The Chemicals website isn't working properly at the moment so no news on pricing but I'm guessing it won't come cheap. Click I wouldn't be surprised if most of the audio ends up on Spotify/YouTube pretty quickly, like with NO's Movement. If people want to own one or two tracks, they will probably be "findable" on DL leak sites...

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Ken Doherty		#9 Posted : 19 June 2019 06:04:16(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 313 Location: London Thanks: 114 times Was thanked: 383 time(s) in 313 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Debaser Originally Posted by: Ken Doherty The Chemicals website isn't working properly at the moment so no news on pricing but I'm guessing it won't come cheap. Click I wouldn't be surprised if most of the audio ends up on Spotify/YouTube pretty quickly, like with NO's Movement. If people want to own one or two tracks, they will probably be "findable" on DL leak sites... Cheers - that comes out 2 days after my birthday so I might be tempted to treat myself (if copies are still available)

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keepitcoming		#10 Posted : 19 June 2019 14:23:45(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 06/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 407 Location: texas Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 406 post(s)		OOC is enough for a lifetime. Underworld's 8 Ball the same . Karl and Eno have some cool songs but the Chem Bros and Underworld best ofs were only ok
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Debaser		#11 Posted : 21 June 2019 02:55:10(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		Video remastered and uploaded today (even though it's not a new YT upload page). Up to 4K in the settings if your computer can handle it. Rosario looks so young here.

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perspexorange		#12 Posted : 21 June 2019 04:19:27(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,377 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3832 time(s) in 2376 post(s)		Great stuff! Thanks for this. Bloody love that track. Will definitely be getting the reissue.

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Debaser		#13 Posted : 01 October 2019 10:48:10(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		New Avalanches remix of OOC on the way: Instagram EDIT The release date of the Box Set has been pushed back to 22nd of November. Whether that means we'll have to wait until then to hear the 21 Minutes of Madness version of OOC, I'm not sure. That track is listed under the "Secret Psychedelic Mixes". One of the other mixes under that banner - Hey Boy Hey Girl (The Secret Psychedelic Mix) was put on youtube today as part of the promotional push... Edited by user 01 October 2019 13:04:45(UTC) \| Reason: Box Set news etc

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negative1		#14 Posted : 02 October 2019 22:45:06(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,185 Thanks: 927 times Was thanked: 1773 time(s) in 1187 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Debaser New Avalanches remix of OOC on the way: Instagram that sounds totally watered down, and mellow. sure it's not the whole thing. but if thats a sample of it, no thanks. later -1

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Michael Monkhouse		#15 Posted : 13 October 2019 02:33:00(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		The Sasha mix kicked butt and was only on vinyl originally. They were making better music outside of their regular bands at this point. The Primal Scream solo was cumpared to Unknown Pleasures. Edited by user 13 October 2019 02:33:57(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Debaser		#16 Posted : 01 November 2019 09:10:41(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		It's unclear at the moment whether the Avalanches remix will feature in the box set (or maybe it will get a stand alone 12" release?) Speaking of which, here's news about the Chems own 21 Minutes Of Madness mix:

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Debaser		#17 Posted : 14 November 2019 16:49:56(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		Preview clips Here and Here

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Jonathan		#18 Posted : 15 November 2019 14:23:41(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/07/2013(UTC) Posts: 123 Location: Tynemouth Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 148 time(s) in 123 post(s)		Cheers for the previews! I picked this up today (I got 1143/1999) but won't get a chance to play it until Tomorrow afternoon Christ those clips are noisy Edited by user 15 November 2019 14:25:55(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Fotzepolitic		#19 Posted : 15 November 2019 15:15:56(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Came to my attention I haven’t listened to Surrender in years. Or at least the whole album.Kind of remember thinking Dig Your Own Hole was a better album but will have to give both another spin.Think I remember Dig Your Own Hole as being more my favourite because it has the fantastic and incredible Private Psychedelic Reel on. I do remember buying Surrender when it was released though and tracks Like Music:Response , Hey Boy Hey Girl and Out Of Control. Was listening to 6Music at work the other day and Hey Boy Hey Girl was playing and a work colleague in his 20s said to me what’s that shit you’re playing ? It’s awful! Sigh, the youth of today. I remember really liking also from the album Asleep From Day. Never was massively convinced by Out Of Control. For me,the one with Noel Gallagher, Let Forever Be was a better collaboration, sorry! Loved the video too. Looking at the CD now, the guy from Mercury Rev sings on the final track? Don’t remember that at all. Will have to give the album a listen now.

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Debaser		#20 Posted : 16 November 2019 04:30:13(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		I don't think there are any more Bernard-y bits in this than the original. Just more FX and dubby bits. In fact I think there's less of his guitars. Towards the end it seems Gillespie is easier to make out. Or maybe I'm just listening harder. Around 17 mins I wondered if Patrick Cowley's mix of I Feel Love may have been getting a nod. Anyway here it is:

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negative1		#21 Posted : 16 November 2019 11:56:45(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,185 Thanks: 927 times Was thanked: 1773 time(s) in 1187 post(s)		excellent. i'm digging it. nice to have it out now. later -1

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Jonathan		#22 Posted : 18 November 2019 02:01:03(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/07/2013(UTC) Posts: 123 Location: Tynemouth Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 148 time(s) in 123 post(s)		Not much to look at, but here's pics of the record (imgur gallery) I quite like that the record store stickered it with "Reserved for <my name>"
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prog99		#23 Posted : 23 November 2019 10:53:49(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 30/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 58 Thanks: 104 times Was thanked: 107 time(s) in 58 post(s)		Don’t think anyone has posted this b4?(forum search didn’t return anything) The farmageddon mix is on the new Sean the sheep movie. Edited by user 23 November 2019 10:54:21(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Ken Doherty		#24 Posted : 28 November 2019 02:06:37(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 313 Location: London Thanks: 114 times Was thanked: 383 time(s) in 313 post(s)		I got the boxset last week and have not had a chance to listen to all of it yet, but I can't say I was that impressed with the 21 minute mix of OOC: unlike the Patrick Cowley remix of I Feel Love, this just seemed like an endurance test after 10 minutes. I can see why the master tapes of it have been sat on a shelf for the last 20 years.

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Debaser		#25 Posted : 28 November 2019 09:14:55(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3196 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		The Box Set (audio) has leaked on the interwebs incidentally. Meanwhile something that didn't end up on the box set is out on Friday:

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