I've just got around to uploading some of my rarer New Order / Factory clips to YouTube and thought I'd share.

I've never seen these online before, so there's a reasonable chance that you lot 'might' not have seen them.

I transferred these from my VHS tapes a couple of years ago. The tapes had degraded somewhat so some of the recordings are pretty shoddy, but they're still very watchable.

I may post some more, if I spot some other rare clips (and providing the clips mentioned above aren't pulled down for copyright reasons).

Here's my channel:

https://www.youtube.com/user/perspexorange

Hope somebody finds something relatively interesting there.



PS As I've said above, some of my tapes were quite badly degraded. If any of you guys have anything rare on tape, I'd advise you to get these transferred asap before they get any worse and share the love.
I transferred mine using this gadget. It wasn't perfect, but it did the job (there's probably better / newer models available now):

https://www.amazon.co.uk...s=electronics&sr=1-1

Edited by user 08 December 2019 09:51:39(UTC)  | Reason: Deserves to be a Sticky.

My favourite clip is Paris '87 one. You might consider putting True Faith in the description/title for more "views".

Seeing it takes me back to my first New Order gig a few months before it (although my memories are in colour). I doubt I'm not the only one that would like them to revert back to this arrangement as the Perfecto one is getting long in the tooth.

Bonus: There's a great bit of Barney dancing after he loses the guitar towards the end.

I think you’re right - I’ll change the description. Still not used to this YouTube malarkey.


Count me in as somebody who’s cheesed off with the Perfecto mix of True Faith. I’d love them to revert back to the classic sound.

Talking of which, although I liked the Hague mix of TF (it’s what got me into the band), I much prefer the live versions from that period. Steve’s live drums are what makes that song.
Just superb.

Awesome! The ET clip is too funny, with Leeza Gibbons somehow saying Jethro Tull made New Order possible. Huh?

Some rare clips there, P.Thanks for sharing.Had never seen those.

Be wary of uploading to YouTube, there's a high chance others will rip your upload and re upload it on their own channel and claim it as a rare find they've uncovered themselves.Or a particular Viking that posts the YouTube link on their Twitter without acknowledging the original source and take the credit for your work.Call me cynical but be careful - there's some real lazy bastards out there, eager to take credit and acclaim for others work.

Edited by user 07 December 2019 12:44:55(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Can't think of a better candidate for a sticky post (I.e. at the top of the forum).

Good for fans to a) see this stuff and b) contribute if they can.

Perspex, feel free to update the title if you wish.

Cheers.

Just posted a few more videos:

1 x 15 minute interview with the band from MTV's 'Post-Modern' programme from May / June 1993;
2 x 3 minute Electronic interviews;
1 x Revenge performance of '& Reasons on German TV;
1 x short clip of Hooky and others (Gloria Estefan, Luthor Vandross etc.) commenting on Michael Jackson. *

* I think this was round about the time that the Jordan Chandler allegations about MJ first came out (August 1993).

Enjoy!

Thanks, p.

Had a browse through a selection of some of your latest uploads.

I remember now that tv show The Big Trip.Kind of a show about young people backpacking i recall.I guess it was late 90s when i used to watch it and i remember thinking oh that music must be Revenge or something.I didn't buy Monaco's Music For Pleasure til about 2000! So didn't know the track Junk before then but recognised it as being the one i'd heard on The Trip or an updated version of it.

Liked the Other Two interview clips on the set of recording the Selfish video.Was that Hammersmith Apollo it was recorded at? I heard Hammersmith mentioned.Steve looking funny , and possibly a bit hot and bothered, in his gorilla suit and Gillian looking beautiful.She mentions in this clip again like she did in another clip that the song is partly adressed to a certain person and that person knows who she is but we never find out who of course!


Is that presenter on the Compu Serve clip Lisa I'Anson ? (90s Radio 1 DJ) Yep an odd little item.


I vaguely remember seeing some of those MTV clips (like the Other Two Selfish vid interview one)around 1993 but didn't record them.I think i even saw that Barney one where he talks about what the lyrics to Regret are about around the time of Reading 93 but of course that was probably a repeat from April 93 as MTV were always repeating stuff.Interesting to hear Barney explain what the Regret lyrics are about, wanting to get back to a "normal" life after years in a "rock" band etc.

Edited by user 15 December 2019 06:44:10(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Thanks for the positive comments, Fotzepolitic (or Singing Detective ;-) !)

Yep, The Big Trip was about young, hipster types back-packing around the world, probably all paid for the BBC (I'm such a cynic!).

I seem to think that, when the Monaco LP came out, I recognised 'Junk' but couldn't place exactly where I'd heard it. It was only in later years that I realised where.

MTV did really reuse and reuse their clips, didn't they? The interviews that the band gave in Rome around the release of 'Regret' seemed to appear on every New Order related item for a year or so.
One thing that used to annoy me about those clips they used was the fact that they used to use different ones in each 'news bulletin'. You'd end up seeing one clip at lunch time and you'd get your VHS ready for the tea-time bulletin to record it and you'd get a completely different clip (or, even more annoying, nothing at all). The collector in me got mildly vexed that I was 'missing' clips.

This is what makes me think there are tonnes of clips out there that we haven't seen; all the various MTV news bulletins.

Yep, Steve does look a trifle uncomfortable in his gorilla suit. And you're right, Gillian does look lovely. It's funny, at the time, the short hair didn't do too much for me (as Ms Gilbert's biggest admirer) but, in hindsight, I think it kind of suited her.
I can't remember where the video was shot, but Hammersmith Apollo seems possible (and familiar).

Yep. That's Lisa I'Anson. She was a familiar face on MTV Europe around then. We got Sky late 1992 / early 1993 and I seemed to spend a lot of time taping New Order clips from MTV in 1993. Although, there was a lot of repetition in shows, I rather liked MTV Europe back in the day. Shows like 120 Minutes & Post-Modern were great and I discovered a few bands watching them.

I didn't have a computer in 1993, so have no real idea what CompuServe looked like. I'm guessing it was some sort of photo-internet thingie.

Just watched the Post Modern interview.

Did anyone get the vibe that Steve was annoyed with Bernard the whole time? Especially the slight about "the 2 Brats." Gillian didn't say much and Hooky didn't seem irritable or anything.

There are two Washingtons: State and DC
Seattle is in Washington State. I'm guessing that's the joke.

Oh dear, I remember that day. Had just gotten MTV a couple of months before. Sat in my room watching throughout the day although most of the shows didn't feature New Order. Things I would do for them back then. Usually there were band-themed weekends, so it was a bit disappointing they only got a day.

I thought they were badly hung over during the hosting. Still remember the bit when they were picking their fave songs and Bernard picks Grandmaster Flash's The Message and Steve asks him what the message is and Bernard says something like "the message is brush your teeth cause your breath smells vodka". Also Hooky picked David Lee Roth and Barney wouldn't watch the video as he claimed it was sexist.
Always wondered why Hooky never formed a proper metal band after New Order.

The documentary was quite disappointing, very little not seen before in various news/120 minutes segments, and nothing I haven't known before generally.

They also played the 120 Minutes Factory special, although they mentioned it was filmed before Factory went bankrupt.

Funny - I remember it as before the special (can never be 100% sure as it was eons ago) but I don't remember Post Modern the show at all. Just 120 mins and later Alternative Nation (was it on VH1?). I had MTV Europe.