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Artificial Flavoring		#1 Posted : 13 February 2020 11:21:59(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		https://youtu.be/dWTT6mBP2GI The Other Two interview. One of two that exist on YouTube or I guess anywhere. Really fun and cute. Also, what's Steve saying to Gillian at around :58-1:00? Something about the painting?

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Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: mystic, ct Thanks: 58 times Was thanked: 156 time(s) in 120 post(s)		I love seeing all these ancient videos finally surfacing! It's the main reason I keep stopping into these forums at this point. I naively hold out hope that someone will eventually upload some unearthed Joy Division footage that hasn't been seen - I so remember the late 80s, having to find record shops in Boston or NYC, usually down some alley, that would stock any Factory Records bootlegs. Hard to explain how much effort it took back the day to the digital generations.
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perspexorange		#3 Posted : 14 February 2020 03:56:38(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,380 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3846 time(s) in 2380 post(s)		Yep. I love seeing old videos like this. I pretty much search youtube everyday in the vague hope that somebody will post something new. The one clip I'm absolutely desperate to see (my White Whale, if you like), is the following: 'Villa Tempo', BRT1 (Belgian TV), 27/01/86 It features Barney, Hooky and Rob (I think) playing in a charity football match.

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Artificial Flavoring		#4 Posted : 14 February 2020 07:29:18(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Yep. I love seeing old videos like this. I pretty much search youtube everyday in the vague hope that somebody will post something new. The one clip I'm absolutely desperate to see (my White Whale, if you like), is the following: 'Villa Tempo', BRT1 (Belgian TV), 27/01/86 It features Barney, Hooky and Rob (I think) playing in a charity football match. Me too. Always looking. And saw you also added some rarities to YouTube. Thank you! Never saw the charity match one. I wonder who might have it??? Villa Tempo.... what did they play on it? Or was it an interview? Also, any clue what Steve was mumbling in the one I posted? Around 1:00? And know if any other actual Other Two interviews even exist? Other than the other one up on YouTube. And if any other Electronic ones exist but not posted anywhere? Or is everything that's now available the only stuff? Edited by user 14 February 2020 07:30:21(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Michael Monkhouse		#5 Posted : 14 February 2020 07:42:53(UTC)
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perspexorange		#6 Posted : 14 February 2020 08:37:47(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,380 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3846 time(s) in 2380 post(s)		Originally Posted by: SeasoningPacket Originally Posted by: perspexorange Yep. I love seeing old videos like this. I pretty much search youtube everyday in the vague hope that somebody will post something new. The one clip I'm absolutely desperate to see (my White Whale, if you like), is the following: 'Villa Tempo', BRT1 (Belgian TV), 27/01/86 It features Barney, Hooky and Rob (I think) playing in a charity football match. Me too. Always looking. And saw you also added some rarities to YouTube. Thank you! Never saw the charity match one. I wonder who might have it??? Villa Tempo.... what did they play on it? Or was it an interview? Also, any clue what Steve was mumbling in the one I posted? Around 1:00? And know if any other actual Other Two interviews even exist? Other than the other one up on YouTube. And if any other Electronic ones exist but not posted anywhere? Or is everything that's now available the only stuff? Steve is saying 'Oh, go on then', in response to Zoe Ball's question 'I've come to ask you just a few questions'. Is that what the bit you're talking about. The only proper 'Other Two' interviews I know of are as follows: 1) 'Naked City', Channel 4, 27/08/93 (interviewed on a sofa in a studio; they show some clips of home movies featuring New Order on the beach, having a barbecue etc.) 2) 'First Look', MTV Europe, 23/10/93 (brief interview clips from 'Selfish' video set) 3) 'The O-Zone', BBC2, 24/10/93 (interview in Paris) 4) 'First Look', MTV Europe, 27/11/93 (another set of brief interview clips from 'Selfish' video set) (I have this on my channel) Numbers 2) and 4) are on my channel. Number 3 is the one you posted above. There may be others. It certainly seems likely that there were interviews (probably on satellite TV) at the time of 'Tasty Fish' and possibly around the time of 'Super Highways'. It's also very likely that MTV used other clips from that 2) and 4) interview above. MTV Europe used to do that quite a bit; break up an interview and use different clips on different shows. It was always very annoying to '20 year-old fanboy perspexorange' who would catch a clip of our heroes on MTV News. Then, when he had the video recorder all set up ready to catch the item on the next bulletin, they'd either use a completely different clip, or worse still, not feature the band at all (being MTV Europe, they'd most likely feature Guns 'n' Roses or something equally as smelly). There must be a tonne of those 'blink and you'll miss it' unscheduled New Order clips that were only shown once on MTV. Kind of annoying, as we'll likely never see those again as fans wouldn't know that they were going to be featured and hence won't have recorded them (not that they were probably earth-shattering, but you know what I mean). As regards, 'Villa Tempo', I think it was just an interview and footage of the band playing football (no live performance etc.). I remember reading about it in one of the old fanzines (either 'Standard' or 'Last Orders'; probably the former) back in the late 80s. I know somebody who's got the footage. I think he was actually at the football match, but also recorded it when it was shown on TV a few days later. He's offered to send it to me, but he's currently getting it transferred from VHS. I don't think it's very long (it's probably only 3-4 minutes) but I would love to see it. Watch this space...

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perspexorange		#7 Posted : 14 February 2020 08:39:43(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,380 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3846 time(s) in 2380 post(s)		PS, here's a link to the 'Naked City' clip on someone else's youtube channel:

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Artificial Flavoring		#8 Posted : 14 February 2020 09:08:48(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: SeasoningPacket Originally Posted by: perspexorange Yep. I love seeing old videos like this. I pretty much search youtube everyday in the vague hope that somebody will post something new. The one clip I'm absolutely desperate to see (my White Whale, if you like), is the following: 'Villa Tempo', BRT1 (Belgian TV), 27/01/86 It features Barney, Hooky and Rob (I think) playing in a charity football match. Me too. Always looking. And saw you also added some rarities to YouTube. Thank you! Never saw the charity match one. I wonder who might have it??? Villa Tempo.... what did they play on it? Or was it an interview? Also, any clue what Steve was mumbling in the one I posted? Around 1:00? And know if any other actual Other Two interviews even exist? Other than the other one up on YouTube. And if any other Electronic ones exist but not posted anywhere? Or is everything that's now available the only stuff? Steve is saying 'Oh, go on then', in response to Zoe Ball's question 'I've come to ask you just a few questions'. Is that what the bit you're talking about. The only proper 'Other Two' interviews I know of are as follows: 1) 'Naked City', Channel 4, 27/08/93 (interviewed on a sofa in a studio; they show some clips of home movies featuring New Order on the beach, having a barbecue etc.) 2) 'First Look', MTV Europe, 23/10/93 (brief interview clips from 'Selfish' video set) 3) 'The O-Zone', BBC2, 24/10/93 (interview in Paris) 4) 'First Look', MTV Europe, 27/11/93 (another set of brief interview clips from 'Selfish' video set) (I have this on my channel) Numbers 2) and 4) are on my channel. Number 3 is the one you posted above. There may be others. It certainly seems likely that there were interviews (probably on satellite TV) at the time of 'Tasty Fish' and possibly around the time of 'Super Highways'. It's also very likely that MTV used other clips from that 2) and 4) interview above. MTV Europe used to do that quite a bit; break up an interview and use different clips on different shows. It was always very annoying to '20 year-old fanboy perspexorange' who would catch a clip of our heroes on MTV News. Then, when he had the video recorder all set up ready to catch the item on the next bulletin, they'd either use a completely different clip, or worse still, not feature the band at all (being MTV Europe, they'd most likely feature Guns 'n' Roses or something equally as smelly). There must be a tonne of those 'blink and you'll miss it' unscheduled New Order clips that were only shown once on MTV. Kind of annoying, as we'll likely never see those again as fans wouldn't know that they were going to be featured and hence won't have recorded them (not that they were probably earth-shattering, but you know what I mean). As regards, 'Villa Tempo', I think it was just an interview and footage of the band playing football (no live performance etc.). I remember reading about it in one of the old fanzines (either 'Standard' or 'Last Orders'; probably the former) back in the late 80s. I know somebody who's got the footage. I think he was actually at the football match, but also recorded it when it was shown on TV a few days later. He's offered to send it to me, but he's currently getting it transferred from VHS. I don't think it's very long (it's probably only 3-4 minutes) but I would love to see it. Watch this space... Ah ok I gotta check again. Dont think I saw the First Look ones. Please do share if you get the football match one! Wish MTV would open their vaults and release everything lol As for the steve thing.. the part where hes whispering to Gillian around :58-1:00

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Artificial Flavoring		#9 Posted : 14 February 2020 09:09:50(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange PS, here's a link to the 'Naked City' clip on someone else's youtube channel: Yup. Seen that one .

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Artificial Flavoring		#10 Posted : 14 February 2020 09:10:53(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Music's still shit though. That's not true. Gotta disagree.

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perspexorange		#11 Posted : 14 February 2020 09:50:06(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,380 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3846 time(s) in 2380 post(s)		Originally Posted by: SeasoningPacket Ah ok I gotta check again. Dont think I saw the First Look ones. Please do share if you get the football match one! Wish MTV would open their vaults and release everything lol As for the steve thing.. the part where hes whispering to Gillian around :58-1:00 Well, the bit around 0:58 is what I said before - 'Oh, go on then'. He leans towards Gillian at the time, but that's just his mannerism, I think. He says it in response to Zoe. Yep - I'll certainly share the football match if I ever get hold of it. I'm sure I'll get it at some point. I missed your question re 'Electronic'. Here are all the clips I know about: 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 14/12/89 (Getting Away With It) (Performance) 'Vivid', ?, 04/12/90 (Interview) 'Cut The Crap', Dutch TV, 1991 (Interview) 'Rapido', BBC2, 24/04/91 (News Article) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 25/04/91 (Get The Message) (Performance) '120 Minutes', MTV Europe, 05/91 (News Article) 'Vivid', ?, 05/91 (Interview) 'Days', Wowow (Japanese TV) (01), 05/91? (Interview) 'Days', Wowow (Japanese TV) (02), 05/91? (Interview) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 09/05/91 (Get The Message - DNA Groove Mix) (Performance) 'Friday At The Dome', Channel 4, 31/05/91 (Documentary) 'Request Video', KDOC-TV (US TV - Los Angeles), 03/07/91 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 07/07/91 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 04/08/91 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 29/09/91 (Interview) 'MTV News', MTV Europe, 06/92 (News Article) 'MTV News', MTV Europe, 06/92 (News Article) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 02/07/92 (Disappointed) (Performance) 'Pet Shop Boys - Popumentary', MTV, 10/93 (Documentary) 'Raise The Pressure' Advert, 1996 (Advert) 'First Look', MTV Europe, 06/96 (Video / News Article) Interview, VH1 (German TV), 06/96? (Interview) 'VH1 Album Charts', VH1, 07/96 (Video / News Article) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 05/07/96 (Forbidden City) (Performance) 'The Wedge', MuchMusic (Canadian TV), 18/07/96 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 21/07/96 (Interview) '2 Rock', VIVA Zwei (German TV), 199? (?) 'Into The Music', VH1, 08/96 (Interview) 'MTV News - Weekend Edition', MTV Europe, 09/96 (News Article) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 20/09/96 (For You) (Performance) 'Later... With Jools Holland', BBC2, 30/11/96 (Out Of My League & Second Nature) (Performance) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 13/12/96 (Forbidden City) (Performance) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 07/02/97 (Second Nature) (Performance) Unknown, MTV Europe, 24/03/99 (?) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 09/04/99 (Vivid) (Performance) Performance, VH1, 04/1999 (Haze, Vivid) (Performance) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 23/04/99 (Vivid) (Performance) 'The Jo Whiley Show', Channel 4, 05/05/99 (Haze) (Performance) 'Electronic's Greatest Hits', VH1 Classic, 10/2006 (Documentary) There's a fair few. I'm guessing there's a handful of clips that I don't know about as well. As to what is and isn't on YouTube, I don't know, but I think most of them have been on there at some point (I have a handful on my cvchannel, I think).

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perspexorange		#12 Posted : 14 February 2020 10:14:45(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,380 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3846 time(s) in 2380 post(s)		And just to be fair to the bearded Viking Love-God that is Mr Hook, here are the various Revenge / Monaco TV programmes that I know about (not sure if Freebass were ever interviewed): 'Transmission', Super Channel, 12/89 (Interview) 'Off The Wall', ITV, 13/12/89 (Interview) 'Snub TV', BBC2, 05/02/90 (7 Reasons) (Video / News Article) 'Rapido', BBC2, 14/02/90 (Interview) 'XPO', MTV Europe, 05/90 (Revenge & New Order) (News Article) Unknown, MTV Europe, 06/90 (Interview) 'Rocklife', WDR TV (German TV), Musichalle, Cologne, Germany, 04/09/90 (Performance - full gig) 'Show-Devant', TLM (French TV), La Bourse Du Travail, Lyon, France, 29/09/90 (Deadbeat & Big Bang) (Interview / Performance) 'Rocklife', WDR TV (German TV), Musichalle, Cologne, Germany, 04/09/90 (Performance - showing of 7 Reasons from above Cologne gig) 'Top Sur', Canal Sur, 1991 (Interview) 'The Big Trip To The USA (Series 2)' (End Credits), BBC2, 21/08/95 (Titles) 'The Big Trip - Series 3' (End Credits), BBC2, 01/1996 (Titles) Interview, Toronto, 1997? (Interview) VH1, 02/97 (What Do You Want From Me?) (Video / News Article) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 21/02/97 (What Do You Want From Me?) (Performance) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC2, 14/03/97 (What Do You Want From Me?) (Performance) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 30/05/97 (Sweet Lips) (Performance) 'This Morning', ITV, 09/97 (Shine) (Performance) 'An Audience With The Bee Gees', ITV, 07/11/98 (Interview) 'ITV At The Reading Festival', ITV, 03/12/98 (Reading Festival, Reading, UK, 30/08/98) (Kashmere, What Do You Want From Me?) (Live Footage) Actually, there's quite a few, ain't there?

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Fotz		#13 Posted : 14 February 2020 11:56:30(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,657 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 678 times Was thanked: 3737 time(s) in 2658 post(s)		I'd seen the O-Zone interview before but hadn't seen that Naked City one so thanks for posting.Had never seen that Steve home movie of the beach and barbecue stuff.Would be interested to see more of Steve's stuff like that. And while we're talking Other Two, it's a good excuse to post this wonderful little clip again

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Artificial Flavoring		#14 Posted : 14 February 2020 13:58:20(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz I'd seen the O-Zone interview before but hadn't seen that Naked City one so thanks for posting.Had never seen that Steve home movie of the beach and barbecue stuff.Would be interested to see more of Steve's stuff like that. And while we're talking Other Two, it's a good excuse to post this wonderful little clip again Nice find!!!!!!

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Artificial Flavoring		#15 Posted : 14 February 2020 14:02:38(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 12/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 113 Thanks: 67 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: SeasoningPacket Ah ok I gotta check again. Dont think I saw the First Look ones. Please do share if you get the football match one! Wish MTV would open their vaults and release everything lol As for the steve thing.. the part where hes whispering to Gillian around :58-1:00 Well, the bit around 0:58 is what I said before - 'Oh, go on then'. He leans towards Gillian at the time, but that's just his mannerism, I think. He says it in response to Zoe. Yep - I'll certainly share the football match if I ever get hold of it. I'm sure I'll get it at some point. I missed your question re 'Electronic'. Here are all the clips I know about: 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 14/12/89 (Getting Away With It) (Performance) 'Vivid', ?, 04/12/90 (Interview) 'Cut The Crap', Dutch TV, 1991 (Interview) 'Rapido', BBC2, 24/04/91 (News Article) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 25/04/91 (Get The Message) (Performance) '120 Minutes', MTV Europe, 05/91 (News Article) 'Vivid', ?, 05/91 (Interview) 'Days', Wowow (Japanese TV) (01), 05/91? (Interview) 'Days', Wowow (Japanese TV) (02), 05/91? (Interview) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 09/05/91 (Get The Message - DNA Groove Mix) (Performance) 'Friday At The Dome', Channel 4, 31/05/91 (Documentary) 'Request Video', KDOC-TV (US TV - Los Angeles), 03/07/91 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 07/07/91 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 04/08/91 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 29/09/91 (Interview) 'MTV News', MTV Europe, 06/92 (News Article) 'MTV News', MTV Europe, 06/92 (News Article) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 02/07/92 (Disappointed) (Performance) 'Pet Shop Boys - Popumentary', MTV, 10/93 (Documentary) 'Raise The Pressure' Advert, 1996 (Advert) 'First Look', MTV Europe, 06/96 (Video / News Article) Interview, VH1 (German TV), 06/96? (Interview) 'VH1 Album Charts', VH1, 07/96 (Video / News Article) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 05/07/96 (Forbidden City) (Performance) 'The Wedge', MuchMusic (Canadian TV), 18/07/96 (Interview) '120 Minutes', MTV, 21/07/96 (Interview) '2 Rock', VIVA Zwei (German TV), 199? (?) 'Into The Music', VH1, 08/96 (Interview) 'MTV News - Weekend Edition', MTV Europe, 09/96 (News Article) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 20/09/96 (For You) (Performance) 'Later... With Jools Holland', BBC2, 30/11/96 (Out Of My League & Second Nature) (Performance) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 13/12/96 (Forbidden City) (Performance) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 07/02/97 (Second Nature) (Performance) Unknown, MTV Europe, 24/03/99 (?) 'TFI Friday', Channel 4, 09/04/99 (Vivid) (Performance) Performance, VH1, 04/1999 (Haze, Vivid) (Performance) 'Top Of The Pops', BBC1, 23/04/99 (Vivid) (Performance) 'The Jo Whiley Show', Channel 4, 05/05/99 (Haze) (Performance) 'Electronic's Greatest Hits', VH1 Classic, 10/2006 (Documentary) There's a fair few. I'm guessing there's a handful of clips that I don't know about as well. As to what is and isn't on YouTube, I don't know, but I think most of them have been on there at some point (I have a handful on my cvchannel, I think). Wow! Ok I think there are a few I havent seen. I'll have to double check YouTube. The 120 minutes ones. Not sure if a couple I saw were actually one of those. Definitely havent heard of the 2 Rock/Germany one. Or the japanese ones. There is one that was just posted a few months ago with loud narrator translation overtop Johnny talking but I think that was French. Thankyou for this list! This site needs a database of these. As for the steve thing.. I think he says something else after go ahead then.. like "talk" or something that rhymes with it. At first I thought he said something about a gong lol Edited by user 14 February 2020 14:04:39(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Michael Monkhouse		#16 Posted : 15 February 2020 03:53:00(UTC)
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