the fans all want to hear it, but there's a human turd standing in the way.

Never mind 'Lost Sirens' after all this time Ive simply 'Lost Interest'.

I keep forgetting it (supposedly) exists. Better for all of us to do so, and then get suprised by an official 'we figured it out' announcement. Plus, the new archieve site is pretty cool and keeping me interested.

Surely Waiting for the Sirens Call too?? Classic song..

I actually think Sirens probably will go down as a "classic" in the long run. It's certainly one of the last New Order songs where they seemed to be playing together as a proper "band" with Barney's guitars, Steve's drums and a fair bit of Hooky bass going on. Together with Turn and Who's Joe, it's one of the highlights of the final LP.

I particularly like what Planet Funk did with the track as well.

Even though it is about his bloody yacht

Edited by user 30 August 2012 07:28:50(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I think the issues are regarding royalties. Barney & Co. probably want it to be split including the current formation, and Hooky probably wants it to be split between him, Steve, Phil and Barney.
I just wish it was out already, Sister+Brother was really great in that facebook from a fellow NOOLer, there's probably some other gems like Turn in it.

Edited by user 30 August 2012 18:24:40(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Bernard is trying to get royalties for Gillian Gilbert & Tom Chapman for 2005/6 recordings which took place a full 5 years before they joined the current touring line-up. I think it's much more simple, one side isn't happy with the existing royalty division and wants more for their share. It's all but been admitted in a recent interview "I get one dollar but I want two" etc.

It will be divide between the three main members (and possibly Phil) but the hold-up is obviously percentages.

Edited by user 31 August 2012 00:26:50(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Seeing that New Order are going through a revival of sorts at the moment and keeping the nautical theme I think a major reason why Hooky is blocking the release of those lost sirens is because he wants to take the wind out of their sails..

I saw what you did there I think there's a storm brewing

At this rate, they'll find themselves slplitting the royalties over wings and beer...

Sure, that's more likely, but I think Hooky is seen as a "collaborator" in the deal, or something similar that would mean he gets a smaller percentage.


I'm not saying that's what Barney wants, but who knows how their old and new contracts are? I've read recently that past The Cure members don't get shit for music they wrote because of the band's contract. Warner had the rights for all NO songs, but after the original band split, they could've changed it to suit other needs. It probably has something specifying that current members get a higher cut, and Hooky's defense is probably arguing that there's no current members because the band split and now there's that whole New Order Ltd. thing as a different company.