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Digi Mike wrote:I saw what you did there  I think there's a storm brewing The storm has just been upgraded to Hurricane Hooky, lets hope it doesn't force Barney's yacht of lost sirens to take shelter in a Pirate Bay 
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Cranelane wrote:Digi Mike wrote:I saw what you did there I think there's a storm brewing The storm has just been upgraded to Hurricane Hooky, lets hope it doesn't force Barney's yacht of lost sirens to take shelter in a Pirate Bay 
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leather-girl wrote:Kutastha wrote:Volturno wrote:I think the issues are regarding royalties. Barney & Co. probably want it to be split including the current formation, and Hooky probably wants it to be split between him, Steve, Phil and Barney. At this rate, they'll find themselves slplitting the royalties over wings and beer...  ???? Meaning they'll make so little money from it by the time it's actually released. Seriously, relatively so little money is made by bands from record sales, how much do they think they're going to get? Sure everyone on NOOL will buy it, well unless it's a bunch of tracks that sound like Hellbent.
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Cranelane wrote:Digi Mike wrote:I saw what you did there I think there's a storm brewing The storm has just been upgraded to Hurricane Hooky, lets hope it doesn't force Barney's yacht of lost sirens to take shelter in a Pirate Bay you mean Port Royal Towne? at this rate when tey release it they will be squabbling over the royalties of sales totaling a whole $225.00 and one coconut...
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Kutastha wrote:leather-girl wrote:Kutastha wrote:Volturno wrote:I think the issues are regarding royalties. Barney & Co. probably want it to be split including the current formation, and Hooky probably wants it to be split between him, Steve, Phil and Barney. At this rate, they'll find themselves slplitting the royalties over wings and beer... ???? Meaning they'll make so little money from it by the time it's actually released. Seriously, relatively so little money is made by bands from record sales, how much do they think they're going to get? Sure everyone on NOOL will buy it, well unless it's a bunch of tracks that sound like Hellbent. But that's the reason people tour nowadays. I don't think studio recorded music is worthless. It may not make as much money but gives people something properly recorded to listen to at home or wherever. They've already said they will release it so as long as they clear up legal issues it would be silly not to release it.
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68Pontiac wrote:Cranelane wrote:Digi Mike wrote:I saw what you did there I think there's a storm brewing The storm has just been upgraded to Hurricane Hooky, lets hope it doesn't force Barney's yacht of lost sirens to take shelter in a Pirate Bay you mean Port Royal Towne? at this rate when tey release it they will be squabbling over the royalties of sales totaling a whole $225.00 and one coconut... Id need to hear it first before parting with my coconut... |
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Barney is pissed off at Hooky leaving and exploiting Joy Division so Barney wants to fuck over Hooky. Steve and Gillian are mad that Hooky is exploiting Joy Division for money. They make it 3 versus 1 to get revenge. They reform New Order to make money. Hooky is outraged and acts like an immature asshole, like an ex-husband furious at his ex-wife. Barney giggles (literally) like he screwed over his spouse and got to keep the house and Mercedes. Hooky is mad at Steve and Gillian for siding with Barney. Phil is probably a footnote in the precedings. The record company will not really make much money from Lost Sirens, so they don't care anymore. Not sure Bernard even cares if Lost Sirens gets released, just maybe if they can piss of Hooky in the process. Hooky is not going to give in no matter what out of stubborn principle, even if there is no profit left to be gained. Amazing that the Lost Siren tracks have never been leaked... maybe nobody felt it was worth the bother. Edited by user 02 September 2012 06:01:41(UTC)
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0_o wrote:Barney is pissed off at Hooky leaving and exploiting Joy Division so Barney wants to fuck over Hooky. Steve and Gillian are mad that Hooky is exploiting Joy Division for money. They make it 3 versus 1 to get revenge. The reform New Order to make money. Hooky is outraged and acts like an immature asshole, like an ex-husband furious at his ex-wife. Barney giggles (literally) like he screwed over his spouse and got to keep the house and Mercedes. Hooky is mad at Steve and Gillian for siding with Barney. Phil is probably a footnote in the precedings. The record company will not really make any money over Lost Sirens, so they don't care anymore. Not sure Bernard even cares if Lost Sirens gets released, just maybe if they can piss of Hooky in the process. Hooky is not going to give in no matter what out of stubborn principle, even if there is no profit left to be gained. Amazing that the Lost Siren tracks have never been leaked... maybe nobody felt it was worth the bother. I would think that the ultimate revenge would be for one side to leak the album. It hasn't leaked -- no stash box from behind a sofa or in a basement has yielded tracks. It's all about the $$$. |
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0_o wrote:Barney is pissed off at Hooky leaving and exploiting Joy Division so Barney wants to fuck over Hooky. Steve and Gillian are mad that Hooky is exploiting Joy Division for money. They make it 3 versus 1 to get revenge. They reform New Order to make money. Hooky is outraged and acts like an immature asshole, like an ex-husband furious at his ex-wife. Barney giggles (literally) like he screwed over his spouse and got to keep the house and Mercedes. Hooky is mad at Steve and Gillian for siding with Barney. Phil is probably a footnote in the precedings. The record company will not really make much money from Lost Sirens, so they don't care anymore. Not sure Bernard even cares if Lost Sirens gets released, just maybe if they can piss of Hooky in the process. Hooky is not going to give in no matter what out of stubborn principle, even if there is no profit left to be gained. Amazing that the Lost Siren tracks have never been leaked... maybe nobody felt it was worth the bother. I don't know the band members but I don't think the motives are as revenge-based as you think. Unless this is a piss-take, this is one of most ridiculous pieces of rubbish I've ever read here. Edited by user 02 September 2012 16:32:15(UTC)
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Personally I think the Hookster's cutting off his nose to spite his face, not literallly. It'll have to come out sooner or later and the longer the wait goes on, the more people'll lose interest and feel disappointed when it does appear - after all, 5 new tracks, it's a pretty low-key affair innit? Plus Hooky'll benefit cos it'll generate interest - no publicity's bad publicity and all that - oh, and money! God I wish this story'd come to its natural conclusion...
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Mike C. wrote:0_o wrote:Barney is pissed off at Hooky leaving and exploiting Joy Division so Barney wants to fuck over Hooky. Steve and Gillian are mad that Hooky is exploiting Joy Division for money. They make it 3 versus 1 to get revenge. The reform New Order to make money. Hooky is outraged and acts like an immature asshole, like an ex-husband furious at his ex-wife. Barney giggles (literally) like he screwed over his spouse and got to keep the house and Mercedes. Hooky is mad at Steve and Gillian for siding with Barney. Phil is probably a footnote in the precedings. The record company will not really make any money over Lost Sirens, so they don't care anymore. Not sure Bernard even cares if Lost Sirens gets released, just maybe if they can piss of Hooky in the process. Hooky is not going to give in no matter what out of stubborn principle, even if there is no profit left to be gained. Amazing that the Lost Siren tracks have never been leaked... maybe nobody felt it was worth the bother. I would think that the ultimate revenge would be for one side to leak the album. It hasn't leaked -- no stash box from behind a sofa or in a basement has yielded tracks. It's all about the $$$. There are no promotional cdr's or MP3's for Lost Sirens at the minute so i will definately NOT leak. :nuts: |
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:nuts: wrote:Mike C. wrote:0_o wrote:Barney is pissed off at Hooky leaving and exploiting Joy Division so Barney wants to fuck over Hooky. Steve and Gillian are mad that Hooky is exploiting Joy Division for money. They make it 3 versus 1 to get revenge. The reform New Order to make money. Hooky is outraged and acts like an immature asshole, like an ex-husband furious at his ex-wife. Barney giggles (literally) like he screwed over his spouse and got to keep the house and Mercedes. Hooky is mad at Steve and Gillian for siding with Barney. Phil is probably a footnote in the precedings. The record company will not really make any money over Lost Sirens, so they don't care anymore. Not sure Bernard even cares if Lost Sirens gets released, just maybe if they can piss of Hooky in the process. Hooky is not going to give in no matter what out of stubborn principle, even if there is no profit left to be gained. Amazing that the Lost Siren tracks have never been leaked... maybe nobody felt it was worth the bother. I would think that the ultimate revenge would be for one side to leak the album. It hasn't leaked -- no stash box from behind a sofa or in a basement has yielded tracks. It's all about the $$$. There are no promotional cdr's or MP3's for Lost Sirens at the minute so i will definately NOT leak. :nuts: Agree with you, :nuts:
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Based on preorders I guess it'll still make a pretty penny for Warner (remember nonsense that was Total had charted) - they'll keep it from leaking. They'll also suppy lawyers. Expect it relatively soon.
Maybe related maybe not, what had been the deal with the PIMM ep being delayed, also something legal? might be he's taking revenge for that (apart from the obvious fucking them every way he can).
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Its fuckin new order innit, of course i'm looking 4ward to the 5 tracks i've never heard, so I for one will rush out or actually in nowadays to my computer and order the vinyl (cause i is old) and for the record (see what i did there) i like hellbent
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Copied from my own Twitter account... "I think I'm sick and tired of waiting for 'Lost Sirens'. #neworder" ...that's what I wrote on there earlier. If it ever comes out, I wouldn't mind having a listen, but I wish there wasn't a vinyl to it. If it gets released, I'd ideally like to see a 'normal edition' without the vinyl, either on CD, or at least sold on iTunes or something.
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Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.
It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion.
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markreed wrote:Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.
It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion. I just saw this info, on Hooky's Twitter. (I don't 'follow' him, but I've searched for it.)
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markreed wrote:Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.
It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion. Why is it desperate? Fair play to him. I'll go.
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markreed wrote:Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.
It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion. It would mean Hooky singing lyrics written by Barney so that would turn up the heat a little bit more... I could imagine Hooky growling his way through a song like 586 but not so sure about how he would get on with a sensitive song like YSF...
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Cranelane wrote:markreed wrote:Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.
It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion. It would mean Hooky singing lyrics written by Barney so that would turn up the heat a little bit more... I could imagine Hooky growling his way through a song like 586 but not so sure about how he would get on with a sensitive song like YSF... Maybe he'll get Pottsy back in?  London gig is at KOKO, Jan 17th. Fairly decent-sized venue for them to fill. Wonder what the Other Three think about this and whether they'll decide to cut him off at the pass and do more gigs themselves come 2013?
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I reckon Re:Order should cover Sisters and Brothers Hooky played it at FAC251 and DJed the track several times, so we all know how it goes. |
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Biginoil wrote:so we all know how it goes. I don't. 
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El Jarvo wrote:Biginoil wrote:so we all know how it goes. I don't. Me neither
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Biginoil wrote:I reckon Re:Order should cover Sisters and Brothers Hooky played it at FAC251 and DJed the track several times, so we all know how it goes. Any idea where I can find it? I'd love to hear it again, but I remember the video on facebook was removed.
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