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Linus Solanki		#101 Posted : 05 April 2021 10:52:40(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 10/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 629 Location: NYC Thanks: 59 times Was thanked: 1027 time(s) in 649 post(s)		If this album had a live version of "Be A Rebel" I would have considered buying it otherwise it sounds like the other live albums they released in the last 5 years.
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Fotz		#102 Posted : 10 April 2021 03:17:43(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Oh hang on, it’s a “ 94 minute tv special “ . So not the full gig? The Blu Ray version will be 2 hours and twenty mins. So it’s not such a dumb move to broadcast it on tv before the Blu Ray release afterall then. Was puzzled at first that they would do something like put it on tv before release and that would harm sales. Well it still could , a little. I mean, if I find the 94 minute version is enough for me I might not buy the Blu Ray.Though you could say that the money Sky pay them for the rights to broadcast it would make up for potential loss in sales and it’s a promotion for the release bundled in? Though I don’t know how these things work so I might be talking out of my arse. But I’m hazarding a guess Sky would have to pay out for it, right? Edited by user 10 April 2021 03:31:44(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Michael Monkhouse		#103 Posted : 10 April 2021 09:37:39(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		The majors constantly fuck up. My personal favourite was Virgin with the Pistols réunion. Put out an edited, poorly packaged CD of the comeback gig after it was broadcast in full by the BBC... The words horse, gift, mouth spring to mind. And let's not forget the New Order Story broadcast the same night as possibly their last ever gig and their first mainland gig for four years. Smart! Edited by user 10 April 2021 09:43:51(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Debaser		#104 Posted : 10 April 2021 12:09:01(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,119 Location: here n there Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 3203 time(s) in 2141 post(s)		Steve's live drumming on Singularity is ace innit. Originally Posted by: Andy I thought this was a peculiar move also. At first I considered that it might just be the standard footage, without all of Christie's post-production special effects that are supposed to make the EER release so unique. After all, the listing is not billing this as EER. But even a simpler production would entail more work/expense... Looks like it has Mike Christie's post-production values. I guess it's just shorter, as per Fotz's comments above. (BTW Fotz, Sky Arts went free to air last September. So it's in everyone's TV package in the UK) They've just skipped over Love Vig, and are now on Ultraviolence. Imagine skipping Love Vig!! Original setlist. EDIT: now they've skipped over Disorder and Crystal FFS. On Academic now. YSF. Yay! Tutti Frutti now (so we're getting all the "new" songs, it seems) Subculture, yay! (Tom's bass "solo" is too subtle, I miss Hooky here) BLT into Vanishing Point They've skipped WFTSC Plastic now (continuing the Music Complete emphasis) TPK skipped. I know this is a big fan favourite but I imagine it's not one for the casual viewer. True Faith now. BLOODY COMMERCIAL BREAKS!! Edited by user 10 April 2021 13:22:21(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Ken Doherty		#105 Posted : 10 April 2021 12:15:52(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 313 Location: London Thanks: 114 times Was thanked: 383 time(s) in 313 post(s)		Don't think I'll be watching this to the end, theres far too many edits: just leave a shot running for more than three seconds without switching to another, especially if its only to show the bellend with a beer in his hand dancing right at the back of the hangar that is Alexandra Palace. I have all the live albums they've brought out since they reformed, don't think I'll bother with the cd or blu-ray versions of this.

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Fotz		#106 Posted : 10 April 2021 12:38:32(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		The lights were uber full on during Singularity. In days of old Bernard would have let rip with his “ turn those fucking lights down, Andy!”

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Fotz		#107 Posted : 10 April 2021 12:48:09(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Ultraviolence a lot more lively than on the MIF live album

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Fotz		#108 Posted : 10 April 2021 13:00:52(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Ooh got the feels there for a moment during YSF. The cynicism fell away and the affinity from the old days came back in a bit

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is it bro		#109 Posted : 10 April 2021 13:27:25(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 22/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 224 Location: Gaza Strip Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 291 time(s) in 229 post(s)		I’ve seen enough on the Sky Arts showing to decide not to bother with the DVD/CD. Otherwise I would have bought it. Sometimes i feel it’s just best to remember the gig as it was at the time.

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Fotz		#110 Posted : 10 April 2021 13:47:47(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Girl with short black hair in front row getting a lot of screen time. Liking the even newer tweaks to intro and more on Perfecto True Faith. The ultra fast edit video switches are plain mad, jeez

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Debaser		#111 Posted : 10 April 2021 14:02:24(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,119 Location: here n there Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 3203 time(s) in 2141 post(s)		Looks like I could only edit my previous post so many times before being accused of spamming by the forum. Since True Faith we've had BM (surprise!) Temptation. SKIPPED Atmosphere, but got Decades (!) LWTUA. End Originally Posted by: is it bro I’ve seen enough on the Sky Arts showing to decide not to bother with the DVD/CD. Otherwise I would have bought it. Sometimes i feel it’s just best to remember the gig as it was at the time. There is no DVD! At the gig you feel the music surging through you and it's a more visceral exerience. I'm noticing the visuals more now watching it on TV (had forgotten the jellyfish for e.g) Had also forgotten the bit where the crowd cheered each band members' name as it came up on screen. I don't own a BluRay player, so I'm not sure when I'll watch the full version of this. But at some point I willl, by hook or by crook. I said at the time that I thought Bernard sang well on the night...and largely I still agree with myself! The too-regular commercial breaks were my biggest bugbear tonight. Which I guess is a backhanded complement to the gig. Edited by user 11 April 2021 03:40:11(UTC) \| Reason: spelling

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Fotz		#112 Posted : 10 April 2021 14:19:18(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Started watching my recording about 9.20pm so I could fast forward through the ad breaks. Was pretty good I guess. A couple hours good entertainment with a few beers on a Saturday night. Decades was pretty damn transcendent near the end there. Not sure I’ll buy the Blu Ray now though ( besides the point that I’d have to buy a Blu Ray player) I’ll probably copy my recording from my tv box to laptop, edit out the ad breaks and I’m done. Edited by user 10 April 2021 14:20:21(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Mr. Disco		#113 Posted : 10 April 2021 14:37:44(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 243 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1525 times Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 243 post(s)		Anyone who recorded it could please PM me? Unable to watch in Brazil
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Fotz		#114 Posted : 10 April 2021 14:38:34(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Anyone who recorded it could please PM me? Unable to watch in Brazil Will see what I can do over the next week or so

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Mr. Disco		#115 Posted : 10 April 2021 14:42:43(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 243 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1525 times Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 243 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz Will see what I can do over the next week or so Thanx in advance, Sire!
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TomVeil		#116 Posted : 10 April 2021 17:51:44(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 02/02/2016(UTC) Posts: 8 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 8 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Anyone who recorded it could please PM me? Unable to watch in Brazil Will see what I can do over the next week or so Would also love a copy! Thanks!

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Fotz		#117 Posted : 11 April 2021 05:33:39(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		For those overseas , here yer go.I captured from tv box to laptop this morning and uploaded to MediaFire HERE A few things to say- unfortunately the first half hour or so the audio has a weird and a little unpleasant sound, kind of like an echoey tunnel sound, ugh.Really don't know what's going on there.It seemed to resolve itself around 33 mins in after Tutti Frutti as the next song Sub Culture the audio is fine and great.It appears again from time to time later on in the video but not for long periods.At a loss to explain why or what happened but i guess i''m still on a long learning curve with the new capture device i bought last year.The sound is great for the most part though.Also, it's not in HD as i only have the SD version of the Sky Arts channel.So if you find SD unwatchable in this day and age then the video won't be for you. On a more positive side, i edited out ALL the ad breaks and quite well if i may say so myself.There was something like 6 or more ad breaks, jeez. File size is 1.24 gb Edited by user 11 April 2021 06:07:10(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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M1		#118 Posted : 11 April 2021 05:49:03(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 243 Location: Adelaide Thanks: 112 times Was thanked: 309 time(s) in 243 post(s)		Thanks mate, appreciate it :)

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M1		#119 Posted : 11 April 2021 05:51:21(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 243 Location: Adelaide Thanks: 112 times Was thanked: 309 time(s) in 243 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz ...a weird and a little unpleasant sound... Barney's vocals are an acquired taste I admit...

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negative1		#120 Posted : 11 April 2021 11:51:37(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,191 Thanks: 943 times Was thanked: 1799 time(s) in 1193 post(s)		Thanks fotz for sharing it, appreciate the effort. not much new from the previous concerts, but i'm sure some will enjoy it. not a fan of the quick epeleptic editting, with quick cuts all over the place. ughh. later -1 Edited by user 11 April 2021 11:58:22(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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M1		#121 Posted : 11 April 2021 15:53:00(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 243 Location: Adelaide Thanks: 112 times Was thanked: 309 time(s) in 243 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 not a fan of the quick epeleptic editting, with quick cuts all over the place. ughh. Really nasty and hard to watch. Hard to listen to in places also if I'm honest. Thanks for posting though, I'm now very comfortable in my decision to give this one a wide berth

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Michael Monkhouse		#122 Posted : 12 April 2021 01:28:54(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 epeleptic editting -1 Tee hee. My dad was a failed epileptic. No great shakes. There's been far too much repetition over the last 20 years but again, it's up to you if you want to buy this. If I bother, it'll be when some kind bod drops it on YouTube.

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Fotz		#123 Posted : 12 April 2021 09:11:38(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,661 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 680 times Was thanked: 3749 time(s) in 2662 post(s)		Originally Posted by: M1 Hard to listen to in places also if I'm honest. Well , don’t forget, that could be to do with the audio problems I had when capturing the video from the tv box to laptop, which I mentioned in my previous post. I may try have another crack at a decent capture of it if I get time. Edited by user 12 April 2021 09:13:59(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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lee		#124 Posted : 12 April 2021 09:45:12(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 19/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: the middle of nowhere Thanks: 7 times Was thanked: 331 time(s) in 212 post(s)		I'm going to have to go against the grain here as i really enjoyed the way it was cut/edited The way the backdrop visuals mixed in and sometimes came to the front made me kind of feel like i was there I was hammered though if i'm honest..and i was having a lot better time than the static crowd seemed to be i know that much I paid for it yesterday though...stinking hangover and i led on the settee all day feeling sorry for myself

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tapebias		#125 Posted : 12 April 2021 09:49:44(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 28/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 176 Location: UK Thanks: 36 times Was thanked: 320 time(s) in 176 post(s)		I only managed to watch the first 30 mins, dem blinkkenlights ouch. The vocals seemed a bit off too and it all seemed a bit underwhelming. I know we can't turn back the clock to the mid80s but there's something missing about the live experience these day, and I don't mean the bassist.

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