Hmm, yeah, I thought that for years.
That Buttrich remix has made me doubt myself though.

Never!

However, yeah, this pretty much seals that it's 'covers'. Or, at least, he decided to change it by the time they got to this gig, either permanently or on a whim.





HaHa. yep. It does.
O-right, my luvverrr!



In this live version, it almost sounds like 'spreads'. Well, to me it does, at least. Probably another example of Bernard changing lyrics on a whim.

But, yeah, I'm sure the studio version is 'stems', and I'm 99% sure it's 'disarrangement' rather than 'estrangement' (based on the Buttrich mix, which is much clearer).

Where they got 'sprung' from is anyone's guess though.
I reckon they, rather than mishearing the word, just made a mistake when typing in the text. They meant to type 'stems' but ended up copying the word 'sprung' from the previous line ('Confusion sprung up from devotion').

They're understandably getting a lot of grief regarding this ignorant tweet: NewOrderTwitter

A monumental clanger, that.

Cheers.
Spotted the first one on Twitter yesterday, which I think is 'new'. I think the other two were originally posted a few months back, along with this one:



Interestingly, as mentioned by Steve, these are from the 23/05/79 gig rather than the more famous 14/03/79 one (which Whitehead filmed and Martin O'Neill took copies photos of).

As far as I know, there is only one other photo of this gig, which has Ian with a very weird facial expression:

They put up another "official lyric" video from Procession which still has several mistakes in the lyrics.

Looks suspiciously like someone just googled the lyrics and did a cut/past job from a dodgy website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gNesiu56c

"Social Media Manager" for New Order: Joseph Eley

Yeah - noticed this also. Good news indeed.

I wonder what she thought of all the bad behaviour by Messrs Sumner & Hook.

It will be interesting to see if she plans a little 'payback' on Hooky.
I have to be honest - I really wouldn't blame her.

I suppose I should have elaborated on this. From his profile: "Social Media Manager for New Order, Joy Division, Hans Zimmer Live, The Fratellis, Yann Tiersen, ACR + loads more"

Perhaps he's spreading himself too thin...

As we all know, she's a class act, so I'd be surprised if she really laid into him (even though I think she really should).

Here's hoping that there's a bit of fire shown from her, at least in a measured way.

And, most importantly, I want her to set the record straight.
I'm not going to kid myself and say she was the driving force behind most of their records, but I'm positive that she made very significant contributions to these tracks.

And that's just the songs. She also did a tonne more:

touring;
playing the gigs, sometimes with incredibly hostile (mostly) male audiences;
doing the interview rounds;
putting up with the bad behaviour of the other three and Rob;

and, in recent years, having to put with frankly horrible comments from Mr Hook about her contribution to the above.


Really looking forward to reading what she has to say.

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Yes I think I got a bit overexcited for a moment there and could and should have chosen my words better. I fully trust Gillian to say whatever she feels she wants and needs to say about Mr Hook and in her own very classy way.

New Lyric video.

Album version of the track. 12" version of the artwork (sort of). Why be straightforward, eh?

New Order - Sub-culture (Official Lyric Video)

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