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perspexorange		#501 Posted : 11 February 2023 01:56:17(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: Fotz There's a scan of the itinerary for Japan in April/May 85 'Around The World in 40 Days' and for April 25th it's listed they were booked to mime Confusion on a Japanese tv show? What??? I'm taking a guess this never happened in the end as i've never been aware of a clip of them miming Confusion on Japanese tv. This! Wow! I would love to see this. Johnny James - did this happen? Is it in the archive? Just in case Johnny missed this comment in the plethora of posts we had in the first few days of release, I thought I'd post this again. Would love to know if this happened.

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Johnny James		#502 Posted : 11 February 2023 14:15:52(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 450 Location: UK Was thanked: 1036 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: Fotz There's a scan of the itinerary for Japan in April/May 85 'Around The World in 40 Days' and for April 25th it's listed they were booked to mime Confusion on a Japanese tv show? What??? I'm taking a guess this never happened in the end as i've never been aware of a clip of them miming Confusion on Japanese tv. This! Wow! I would love to see this. Johnny James - did this happen? Is it in the archive? Just in case Johnny missed this comment in the plethora of posts we had in the first few days of release, I thought I'd post this again. Would love to know if this happened. To be honest I hadn't even noticed it, so never tried looking for it. It seems unlikely given the single was two years earlier.

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perspexorange		#503 Posted : 11 February 2023 18:14:51(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		Yeah. Seems unlikely. Especially considering nothing has ever appearered on YouTube after all these years. It does seem weird that this was ever considered by the band. As you say, Confusion was old at the time. More likely to be TPK etc. Thanks for response JJ. Appreciated.

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Johnny James		#504 Posted : 12 February 2023 02:33:00(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 450 Location: UK Was thanked: 1036 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Yeah. Seems unlikely. Especially considering nothing has ever appearered on YouTube after all these years. It does seem weird that this was ever considered by the band. As you say, Confusion was old at the time. More likely to be TPK etc. Thanks for response JJ. Appreciated. hmmm, the video doesn't work but that image looks a bit 1985 to me: https://sonicmoremusic.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/watch-new-order-interview-on-hong-kong-tv-from-1983/

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Fotz		#505 Posted : 12 February 2023 03:28:24(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Hold on, that image rings vague bells for me of watching an 80s clip of them being interviewed in that part of the world. Or am i getting mixed up with something else? The sofa and 80s image quality seems familar But i've definitely never seen a clip of them performing a song on a tv show from Hong Kong.Or Japan. Yes, i agree i'm thinking that looks 1985 rather than 1983. Thanks for that link, Johnny. Edit: ah i think the Japanese one i'm thinking of is Steve & Gillian interviewed 1988. Though i think that one wasn't orginally Japanese tv anyway, it was Music Box: Rock of Europe but was also shown on Japanese tv with Japanese subtitles and a Japanese presenter is seen at the end. The interviewer is a female English voice. Edited by user 12 February 2023 04:17:22(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Fotz		#506 Posted : 12 February 2023 04:57:54(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: Fotz There's a scan of the itinerary for Japan in April/May 85 'Around The World in 40 Days' and for April 25th it's listed they were booked to mime Confusion on a Japanese tv show? What??? I'm taking a guess this never happened in the end as i've never been aware of a clip of them miming Confusion on Japanese tv. This! Wow! I would love to see this. Johnny James - did this happen? Is it in the archive? Just in case Johnny missed this comment in the plethora of posts we had in the first few days of release, I thought I'd post this again. Would love to know if this happened. Oh and i realise now i"d stated Japanese tv. Checked the image again in the book in the Low life box and it is Hong Kong tv, not Japan. My mistake. From Wikipedia, the programme 'Enjoy Yourself Tonight' ran from 1967-1994 and it seems had a musical performance by a group or artist each week.So, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that New Order did perform a song on it. Alas, it may only ever have been seen by the tv audience in that part of the world, wasn't recorded to VHS by anyone and forever more was forgotten in the mists of time. Unless someone in Hong Kong has VHS tapes as a collection in his or her attic of every episode of the show (er, probably not eh?). I have a feeling we'll never know. Unless Steve or someone remembers performing a song on the show.

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perspexorange		#507 Posted : 12 February 2023 08:37:14(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		I've got that Hong Kong TV interview (no 'live in studio performance' sadly). The clip I have is of two separate interviews, presumably from two different TV studios (and on different days, looking at the change in clothes). Interestingly, both clips contain live performances, but from different TV programmes (Play At Home Haç footage and BBC Rock Around The Clock). Maybe the band decided not to mime and provided live footage from a gig instead? You can download it here (seven days only): https://we.tl/t-Ttx6ohB06I Not sure where I got it from. Might've been YouTube (although I can't find it on there now). I reckon, if the band had performed, someone will have taped it. In 1985, video recorders were in most people's houses I would imagine.

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perspexorange		#508 Posted : 12 February 2023 08:44:04(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Johnny James hmmm, the video doesn't work but that image looks a bit 1985 to me: https://sonicmoremusic.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/watch-new-order-interview-on-hong-kong-tv-from-1983/ And, yeah, based on Gillian's and Hooky's hair etc, plus the fact that 1984 live footage was shown, the interviews were likely at the end of April 1985 (i.e. when the band were next in the far East following those '84 clips).

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Fotz		#509 Posted : 12 February 2023 09:04:04(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange I've got that Hong Kong TV interview (no 'live in studio performance' sadly). The clip I have is of two separate interviews, presumably from two different TV studios (and on different days, looking at the change in clothes). Interestingly, both clips contain live performances, but from different TV programmes (Play At Home Haç footage and BBC Rock Around The Clock). Maybe the band decided not to mime and provided live footage from a gig instead? You can download it here (seven days only): https://we.tl/t-Ttx6ohB06I Not sure where I got it from. Might've been YouTube (although I can't find it on there now). I reckon, if the band had performed, someone will have taped it. In 1985, video recorders were in most people's houses I would imagine. Brilliant, perspex :applause: I downloaded and watched. Thanks so much for this.I really don't remember ever seeing that before.It's weird though, some parts of the interview ring a very very vague bell.Strange. Fantastic to see it anyway.Actually, nope, i'm convinced now i'd never seen it before.Often amazes me how there's still stuff out there from the 80s i've never seen.Chuckled at Steve's "Yer alright? What can i do for yer?"

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perspexorange		#510 Posted : 12 February 2023 12:22:40(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		Glad you liked it. I think I found it online about three years ago. I was quite pleased when I found it, as I’d never seen it before and it seems pretty rare to have something from Hong Kong. I’m about 90% sure I grabbed it from YouTube, so thanks to the original uploader (whoever that may be).

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perspexorange		#511 Posted : 12 February 2023 12:31:32(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		Oh, and if anyone comes to this post late and the link is dead, just let me know and I’ll repost For those that can’t register here (I occasionally get messages on YouTube/Twitter etc. from people saying that they can’t register on NOOL), just let me know on my YouTube channel (perspexorange) and I’ll try and get you sorted.

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negative1		#512 Posted : 13 February 2023 07:30:16(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 920 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		saw some people posting pictures of their boxsets: here's a mix and match with a few more thrown in: all 6 of mine movement, power corruption and lies low-life, music complete music complete boxset singles and albums, various music complete colored singles - in order - temptation clear - be a rebel here's a side look at all the singles later -1

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Fotz		#513 Posted : 13 February 2023 11:20:12(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange I've got that Hong Kong TV interview (no 'live in studio performance' sadly). The clip I have is of two separate interviews, presumably from two different TV studios (and on different days, looking at the change in clothes). Interestingly, both clips contain live performances, but from different TV programmes (Play At Home Haç footage and BBC Rock Around The Clock). Maybe the band decided not to mime and provided live footage from a gig instead? You can download it here (seven days only): https://we.tl/t-Ttx6ohB06I Not sure where I got it from. Might've been YouTube (although I can't find it on there now). I reckon, if the band had performed, someone will have taped it. In 1985, video recorders were in most people's houses I would imagine. In the booklet included in the Retro boxset there's a photograph of Steve which looks like it was taken at the time of that second interview clip.It's a pic of Steve holding a big (his own?) video camera and he has same shirt and haircut, photo of Hong Kong on wall as in the clip.On page 12.

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tapebias		#514 Posted : 13 February 2023 12:09:39(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 28/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 175 Location: UK Thanks: 36 times Was thanked: 313 time(s) in 175 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 saw some people posting pictures of their boxsets: here's a mix and match with a few more thrown in: all 6 of mine movement, power corruption and lies low-life, music complete music complete boxset singles and albums, various music complete colored singles - in order - temptation clear - be a rebel here's a side look at all the singles later -1 I think you might have more NO music than I have in my entire music collection. What are those CD holders that you are using - the small ones? Thanks

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M1		#515 Posted : 13 February 2023 13:06:06(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 242 Location: Adelaide Thanks: 109 times Was thanked: 307 time(s) in 242 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 saw some people posting pictures of their boxsets: here's a mix and match with a few more thrown in: -1 Where did you get the plastic cases mate? I've been looking for ages for something to house my 12" x 12" campaign set given that the sleeves are super flimsy

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perspexorange		#516 Posted : 13 February 2023 13:49:30(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,372 Location: Salop Thanks: 503 times Was thanked: 3807 time(s) in 2369 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz In the booklet included in the Retro boxset there's a photograph of Steve which looks like it was taken at the time of that second interview clip.It's a pic of Steve holding a big (his own?) video camera and he has same shirt and haircut, photo of Hong Kong on wall as in the clip.On page 12. Good spot, Fotz! Damn good spot!

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negative1		#517 Posted : 14 February 2023 05:59:49(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 920 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: M1 Originally Posted by: negative1 saw some people posting pictures of their boxsets: here's a mix and match with a few more thrown in: -1 Where did you get the plastic cases mate? I've been looking for ages for something to house my 12" x 12" campaign set given that the sleeves are super flimsy check with your arts and crafts store, and look for 12x12 plastic containers. also amazon would have them. such as: https://www.amazon.com.a...=%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-5 basically any 12x12 plastic scrapbook containers. good luck. (that reminds me to pull out the 12x12 releases) later -1 Edited by user 14 February 2023 06:00:25(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Mr Discography		#519 Posted : 03 March 2023 06:52:10(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 388 Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 745 time(s) in 389 post(s)		Over a month since the Low-life set came out now, and still no sign of the digital versions of the 12 inches on digital download or streaming services. Somewhat disappointing. Has someone at the label just forgotten to put them up online I wonder? Hope something materialises soon.

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Like No Other		#520 Posted : 03 March 2023 15:55:23(UTC)
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Johnny James		#521 Posted : 03 March 2023 23:16:29(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 450 Location: UK Was thanked: 1036 time(s) in 450 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Over a month since the Low-life set came out now, and still no sign of the digital versions of the 12 inches on digital download or streaming services. Somewhat disappointing. Has someone at the label just forgotten to put them up online I wonder? Hope something materialises soon. They will be released I'm told, not sure exactly when though. This time the label are operating a window for selling the physical media first.

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Mr Discography		#522 Posted : 04 March 2023 01:32:38(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 388 Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 745 time(s) in 389 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Johnny James Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Over a month since the Low-life set came out now, and still no sign of the digital versions of the 12 inches on digital download or streaming services. Somewhat disappointing. Has someone at the label just forgotten to put them up online I wonder? Hope something materialises soon. They will be released I'm told, not sure exactly when though. This time the label are operating a window for selling the physical media first. Thanks Johnny. I wondered if they might be doing this - maximise the physical sales before allowing people to hear them digitally.

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Mike C.		#523 Posted : 10 March 2023 12:27:50(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 132 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Thanks: 266 times Was thanked: 163 time(s) in 132 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Johnny James Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Over a month since the Low-life set came out now, and still no sign of the digital versions of the 12 inches on digital download or streaming services. Somewhat disappointing. Has someone at the label just forgotten to put them up online I wonder? Hope something materialises soon. They will be released I'm told, not sure exactly when though. This time the label are operating a window for selling the physical media first. Hello Johnny. Will the Movement-era singles still missing in certain regions be part of the release? Thanks
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Mr Discography		#524 Posted : 23 March 2023 15:33:48(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 388 Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 745 time(s) in 389 post(s)		So at the time of writing, it's 23:30 here in the UK on Thursday night. I just noticed that 'The Perfect Kiss' digital single is now on iTunes - but not 'Sub-Culture' or 'Shellshock'. Perhaps they're releasing them one at a time? I want to buy it in better quality (probably from Qobuz, where I bought the other re-released digital 12" singles at CD quality), but it's not on there yet. I noticed the Depeche Mode album (due for release on Friday) was available on iTunes at 23:00 Thursday, so will be interesting to see if 'The Perfect Kiss' appears on other Digital music platforms on Friday morning. Edited by user 23 March 2023 15:35:31(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Mr Discography		#525 Posted : 23 March 2023 16:05:39(UTC)
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