logo
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Andy  
#1 Posted : 21 September 2023 09:38:22(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
2023 European Tour
thanks 1 user thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC)
Sponsor
Andy  
#2 Posted : 21 September 2023 11:40:47(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
Shaking it up: Setlist.fm
thanks 4 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC), Like No Other on 21/09/2023(UTC), Debaser on 21/09/2023(UTC), GotBlueEyes on 22/09/2023(UTC)
Like No Other  
#3 Posted : 21 September 2023 12:31:38(UTC)
Like No Other

Rank: Member of the Village

Groups: Registered
Joined: 27/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 55
Location: Beverley

Thanks: 813 times
Was thanked: 115 time(s) in 55 post(s)
Shake it Up - Random choice that one! Even Hooky hasn't played that!!
thanks 2 users thanked Like No Other for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC), Debaser on 21/09/2023(UTC)
Andy  
#4 Posted : 21 September 2023 12:37:24(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Like No Other Go to Quoted Post
Shake it Up - Random choice that one! Even Hooky hasn't played that!!


True, but a bit peculiar.
Unfortunately, it's basically the lesser cousin of "Guilt is a Useless Emotion".
thanks 1 user thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC)
Andy  
#5 Posted : 21 September 2023 12:53:00(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
Although it's disappointing that they're sticking with a Joy Division encore, at least there were a couple of surprises.

And there should be at least another track or two in the bag to be revealed over the next few gigs.

Edit: And 19 songs is as much as you could hope for.

Edited by user 21 September 2023 12:55:28(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC), Like No Other on 21/09/2023(UTC)
Debaser  
#6 Posted : 21 September 2023 14:50:17(UTC)
Debaser

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,118
Location: here n there

Thanks: 528 times
Was thanked: 3199 time(s) in 2140 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Like No Other Go to Quoted Post
Shake it Up - Random choice that one! Even Hooky hasn't played that!!


True, but a bit peculiar.
Unfortunately, it's basically the lesser cousin of "Guilt is a Useless Emotion".


It's downright bizarre!

I remember even Bernard saying he couldn't get excited about the release of Lost Sirens. And I kinda agree(d) with him.
He must have had some say (or a big say) in chucking this one into the pot of songs. God knows why; it's bland as hell.

I can't remember ever seeing/hearing any NO fan ever saying: "please play Shake It Up".

In theory it's good that they're keeping an open mind, but hmmm, quality control?? I wonder if the venue/promotor asked them beforehand to play a crap song so that everyone would go to the bar during the gig and spend some money...

Edited by user 21 September 2023 14:51:47(UTC)  | Reason: typo

thanks 3 users thanked Debaser for this useful post.
Andy on 21/09/2023(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC), Like No Other on 21/09/2023(UTC)
Fotz  
#7 Posted : 21 September 2023 20:27:48(UTC)
Fotz

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC)
Posts: 2,657
Location: Down on the farm

Thanks: 678 times
Was thanked: 3737 time(s) in 2658 post(s)
Must have done it for a bet. Only possible explanation.
thanks 4 users thanked Fotz for this useful post.
Mark on 21/09/2023(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC), Like No Other on 21/09/2023(UTC), tapebias on 22/09/2023(UTC)
Andy  
#8 Posted : 21 September 2023 21:29:38(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Must have done it for a bet. Only possible explanation.


If they wanted to live debut a synthy track that the general audience is less familiar with, they should have gone with "Unlearn this Hatred". I think it would work well live and, as a bonus, it's actually from the current lineup.

thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2023(UTC), Like No Other on 21/09/2023(UTC)
GotBlueEyes  
#9 Posted : 22 September 2023 00:43:51(UTC)
GotBlueEyes

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/09/2015(UTC)
Posts: 340

Thanks: 152 times
Was thanked: 628 time(s) in 339 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Like No Other Go to Quoted Post
Shake it Up - Random choice that one! Even Hooky hasn't played that!!


You have to wonder if that was the motivation in some weird way? They had a brief spell of playing I'll Stay With you from Lost Sirens in 2013 and Californian Grass in 2014 too

The live footage of them doing Shake it Up last night seems like Tom has ditched Hooky's bass part completely and is playing something that isn't on the record. Which suggests that they have put at least some amount of effort into a new arreangement

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5qMmPAbm8[/YOUTUBE]



thanks 4 users thanked GotBlueEyes for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 22/09/2023(UTC), negative1 on 22/09/2023(UTC), Andy on 22/09/2023(UTC), Like No Other on 22/09/2023(UTC)
Papabendi  
#10 Posted : 22 September 2023 01:48:49(UTC)
Papabendi

Rank: Candidate

Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/09/2015(UTC)
Posts: 10
Location: London

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 10 post(s)
Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Like No Other Go to Quoted Post
Shake it Up - Random choice that one! Even Hooky hasn't played that!!


You have to wonder if that was the motivation in some weird way? They had a brief spell of playing I'll Stay With you from Lost Sirens in 2013 and Californian Grass in 2014 too

The live footage of them doing Shake it Up last night seems like Tom has ditched Hooky's bass part completely and is playing something that isn't on the record. Which suggests that they have put at least some amount of effort into a new arreangement

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5qMmPAbm8[/YOUTUBE]





Utter garbage. All summer to come up with something new for these highly priced gigs and this is what they do. Embarrassing. And they wonder why ticket sales are so slow.

thanks 2 users thanked Papabendi for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 22/09/2023(UTC), tapebias on 22/09/2023(UTC)
negative1  
#11 Posted : 22 September 2023 05:00:22(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Substance

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,186

Thanks: 934 times
Was thanked: 1778 time(s) in 1188 post(s)
i think its fun.

at least they added something new.
there was a lot of other choices. but why not.

later
|| ||||| |
ne gative 1
thanks 2 users thanked negative1 for this useful post.
Andy on 22/09/2023(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 22/09/2023(UTC)
lee  
#12 Posted : 22 September 2023 08:49:30(UTC)
lee

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 19/09/2015(UTC)
Posts: 211
Location: the middle of nowhere

Thanks: 7 times
Was thanked: 331 time(s) in 212 post(s)
I would honestly rather listen to shake it off than that rubbish

Edited by user 22 September 2023 08:56:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 2 users thanked lee for this useful post.
tapebias on 22/09/2023(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 22/09/2023(UTC)
tapebias  
#13 Posted : 22 September 2023 10:28:01(UTC)
tapebias

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 28/11/2012(UTC)
Posts: 176
Location: UK

Thanks: 36 times
Was thanked: 318 time(s) in 176 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Must have done it for a bet. Only possible explanation.


Give me strength. I don't think I've even listened to this song in full it was so bad, or is it the Tyler Swift song lol. pLease make this setlist nightmare stop - I wasn't even there Big Grin
thanks 1 user thanked tapebias for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 22/09/2023(UTC)
Fotz  
#14 Posted : 22 September 2023 12:14:44(UTC)
Fotz

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC)
Posts: 2,657
Location: Down on the farm

Thanks: 678 times
Was thanked: 3737 time(s) in 2658 post(s)
If they want to try previously never performed songs from Lost Sirens why not give I've Got A Feeling a shot? That was an at least half decent tune.
thanks 1 user thanked Fotz for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 22/09/2023(UTC)
Andy  
#15 Posted : 23 September 2023 00:27:08(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
If they want to try previously never performed songs from Lost Sirens why not give I've Got A Feeling a shot? That was an at least half decent tune.


Yes, that and "Recoil" are probably my favourites (though neither would be particularly exciting live).
thanks 1 user thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 23/09/2023(UTC)
perspexorange  
#16 Posted : 23 September 2023 03:16:29(UTC)
perspexorange

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC)
Posts: 2,380
Location: Salop

Thanks: 504 times
Was thanked: 3848 time(s) in 2380 post(s)
On the one hand, I think it's great that they have tried a 'new' song out in a live environment. Bravo!

On the other hand, Shake It Up. Nah.
Why the Hell would they pick a track from, lets be brutally honest here, an album of rejected songs?

What the flipping heck is wrong with 'Everything's Gone Green'?
Do they hate it that much that they think 'Shake It Up' is better? Dear me...

You know, I can kind of see why they might want to play (the fairly bland) 'Be A Rebel'. It's relatively new (if you class anything from the eight-years old 'Music Complete' sessions as new).
Plus, it's a song that features Tom and the post-Hook line-up.

But 'Shake It Up'? It doesn't have that advantage.
Instead, it's a dull track from an LP comprised of stuff not deemed worthy of including on one of the band's worst LPs.

New Order - resurrect old songs. Please.
Just make it worth your/our while and pick something that will get fans excited to go and see the band again.
EGG and Thieves Like Us will do that. How about Hurt too?
thanks 2 users thanked perspexorange for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 23/09/2023(UTC), GotBlueEyes on 23/09/2023(UTC)
Andy  
#17 Posted : 23 September 2023 11:17:23(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,218
Man
Location: Seaside, California

Thanks: 1659 times
Was thanked: 3336 time(s) in 2238 post(s)
One positive thing I'd note about this set is that nearly every album is represented (though I don't personally count Lost Sirens as an album). Only Movement and Get Ready were neglected. Early reports are that "Crystal" has kicked off the following show in Amsterdam...
thanks 1 user thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 23/09/2023(UTC)
The Shadow  
#18 Posted : 24 September 2023 03:15:27(UTC)
The Shadow

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 412
Location: Derby

Thanks: 91 times
Was thanked: 581 time(s) in 412 post(s)
I was Lucky enough to go to this with my daughter and like Bernard said at the gig what a wonderful city. Would be very easy to live there.

Being in a different country made this special for me as was sharing the experience with my daughter. There were mistakes, and yes similar set lists with a few surprises. I don’t anyone in the whole world would have guessed shake it up! Looking at the Amsterdam set list they are mixing it up a bit.

I spoke to lots of Danish people and also German. It makes you understand why at this time in their career certain highlights have to be played (BM, TF, LWTUA, TEMPTATION, BLT etc). Most people I spoken haven’t seen new order live for 20 years so was special for them to hear the classics. Not everyone can go at least once to every tour. I was told last time NO played Denmark that was not a festival was back in1986 so there was a lot of excitement them visiting for a full set. I spoke to no one who had seen them more than twice despite being long term fans, I.e all 50 plus in age. Got to say transmission sounded immense on the night, most I e enjoyed a JD track in a new order set for a long time. Isolation suits a NO set but not the most fluid of versionsSmile

At last seen new order in a different country and what a great city to experience it in, a Viking place no lessSmile

Edited by user 24 September 2023 03:28:40(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 1 user thanked The Shadow for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 24/09/2023(UTC)
perspexorange  
#19 Posted : 24 September 2023 03:25:39(UTC)
perspexorange

Rank: Dead Soul

Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC)
Posts: 2,380
Location: Salop

Thanks: 504 times
Was thanked: 3848 time(s) in 2380 post(s)
Sounds like you had a great time! Fab!
I still have never seen the band outside of the UK

Despite my criticism of playing Shake It Up, i do think the setlist for Copenhagen looked particularly good.
A nice mix of 'the hits', plus fan favourites that don't always make it into the line-up (Ceremony, Age of Consent and 1963).

Although I've seen the band multiple times, they never seem to play Age of Consent and 1963 when I'm in attendance. Every time I attend, they drop those tracks. Same with 5-8-6. When I attend, they don't play it.
Very annoying as I'd love to see those tracks played live.
thanks 2 users thanked perspexorange for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 24/09/2023(UTC), The Shadow on 24/09/2023(UTC)
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF 2.1.1 | YAF © 2003-2024, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.873 seconds.