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#51 Posted : 20 September 2012 09:38:18(UTC)
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El Jarvo wrote:
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Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.

It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion.


Why is it desperate?

Fair play to him.

I'll go.



i'll be there too,will be interesting to see what Hookys take on PC&L is like.

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ROCKET MICK on 20/09/2012(UTC)
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#52 Posted : 20 September 2012 11:26:23(UTC)
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El Jarvo wrote:
markreed wrote:
Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.

It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion.


Why is it desperate?

Fair play to him.

I'll go.



Why?

He WAS touring Joy Division. At least Joy Division don't exist anymore. He's been touring the JD nostalgia show for three years. Now he's run out of JD stuff, it's onto New Order. At least the singer of JD is dead and can't sing anymore, and there isn't a JD. So even with the whole tenuous link of Bass-Player-Singing-Songs-He-Didn't-Originally-Sing-and-Not-Playing-The-Instrument-He-Played-On-The-Records which seemed a bit of a loose connection to the original JD band, he's now in the whole Bass-Player-Singing-Songs-He-Didn't-Originally-Sing-and-Not-Playing-The-Instrument-He-Played-On-The-Records-Even-Though-The-Original-Singer-Is-Still-Alive-And-The-Band-Are-Actually-Together position.

How would we feel if it wasn't Hooky? If say, it was another band. If it was Jason-Newsted ex-Metallica touring one of their albums? It's a desperate move. Or perhaps someone who used to be guitarist in Whitesnake trying to sing some of their drivel. Think of something else to do Hooky. We don't need Faux New Order when the actual New Order are touring. And if I had to pick between Hooky and Barney singing New Order, Barneys a better singer. Always has been. It's not too far until we get the Peter-Hook-performs-The-Other-Two-And-You in 2023.

Lets not mention Rowetta fucking murdering the songs. You might as well have Lady-Gaga-sings-Nirvana.

For heavens sake, Hooky, I've never wanted you to be anything less than a success, but seeing you perform a set full of New Order songs with a bunch of mostly Sleeperblokes, singing songs you never sang, and not playing bass, is a bloody horrific idea. I've seen Frankenbands trying to cover old songs when there's only the singer, or the accountant, left, and it is a degrading sight to the songs. I don't want imagine Hooky and The Blokes trying to growl their way through "Blue Monday". I might as well go and see Howling Mad Frank down the local pub karoke over the 12".

LET IT GO, HOOKY.

Write new songs, record new songs, tour new songs, and play some old ones at the same time, and I wish you every success in the matter, but STOP LIVING IN THE PAST, stop selling bricks and bits of ground up old beer cans from a club that closed 15 years ago, and stop trying to make a buck out of being the worlds only tribute act to Who You Were Thirty Years Ago.

If I wanted to see New Order, I'd go see New Order.
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#53 Posted : 20 September 2012 11:39:19(UTC)
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markreed wrote:


Write new songs, record new songs, tour new songs, and play some old ones at the same time, and I wish you every success in the matter, but STOP LIVING IN THE PAST, stop selling bricks and bits of ground up old beer cans from a club that closed 15 years ago, and stop trying to make a buck out of being the worlds only tribute act to Who You Were Thirty Years Ago.

If I wanted to see New Order, I'd go see New Order.


^^ Exactly. Peter Hook is and always has been an artist/musician, and IMO, for any artist or musician, creation should always be at the core, rather doing your own retrospective of yourself. Create something new and embrace the inevitable changes in technology when it comes to music, and only then you can be young again... seriously.
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#54 Posted : 20 September 2012 13:38:01(UTC)
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I am very eager to hear these songs.

1. I'll Stay with You (4.22)
2. Sugarcane (4.47)
3. Recoil (5.08)
4. Californian Grass (4.38)
5. Hellbent (4.28)
6. Shake it Up (5.21)
7. I've Got a Feeling (4.29)
8. I Told You So (5.05)


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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2012(UTC)
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#55 Posted : 20 September 2012 13:40:49(UTC)
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markreed wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
markreed wrote:
Given that Hooky's just announced that he will be touring "Movement"/"Power Corruption & Lies" and announced shows in London + Manchester, I can't see how there will ever be a thaw.

It's a fucking desperate move, in my opinion.


Why is it desperate?

Fair play to him.

I'll go.



Why?

He WAS touring Joy Division. At least Joy Division don't exist anymore. He's been touring the JD nostalgia show for three years. Now he's run out of JD stuff, it's onto New Order. At least the singer of JD is dead and can't sing anymore, and there isn't a JD. So even with the whole tenuous link of Bass-Player-Singing-Songs-He-Didn't-Originally-Sing-and-Not-Playing-The-Instrument-He-Played-On-The-Records which seemed a bit of a loose connection to the original JD band, he's now in the whole Bass-Player-Singing-Songs-He-Didn't-Originally-Sing-and-Not-Playing-The-Instrument-He-Played-On-The-Records-Even-Though-The-Original-Singer-Is-Still-Alive-And-The-Band-Are-Actually-Together position.

How would we feel if it wasn't Hooky? If say, it was another band. If it was Jason-Newsted ex-Metallica touring one of their albums? It's a desperate move. Or perhaps someone who used to be guitarist in Whitesnake trying to sing some of their drivel. Think of something else to do Hooky. We don't need Faux New Order when the actual New Order are touring. And if I had to pick between Hooky and Barney singing New Order, Barneys a better singer. Always has been. It's not too far until we get the Peter-Hook-performs-The-Other-Two-And-You in 2023.

Lets not mention Rowetta fucking murdering the songs. You might as well have Lady-Gaga-sings-Nirvana.

For heavens sake, Hooky, I've never wanted you to be anything less than a success, but seeing you perform a set full of New Order songs with a bunch of mostly Sleeperblokes, singing songs you never sang, and not playing bass, is a bloody horrific idea. I've seen Frankenbands trying to cover old songs when there's only the singer, or the accountant, left, and it is a degrading sight to the songs. I don't want imagine Hooky and The Blokes trying to growl their way through "Blue Monday". I might as well go and see Howling Mad Frank down the local pub karoke over the 12".

LET IT GO, HOOKY.

Write new songs, record new songs, tour new songs, and play some old ones at the same time, and I wish you every success in the matter, but STOP LIVING IN THE PAST, stop selling bricks and bits of ground up old beer cans from a club that closed 15 years ago, and stop trying to make a buck out of being the worlds only tribute act to Who You Were Thirty Years Ago.

If I wanted to see New Order, I'd go see New Order.


Well said mark, a genuine post if ever there was one.
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#56 Posted : 20 September 2012 14:52:19(UTC)
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edspess wrote:
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so we all know how it goes.


I don't. Frown


Me neither Confused


me neither
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2012(UTC)
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#57 Posted : 20 September 2012 14:53:43(UTC)
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Yer will in a minute Nod


huh?
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2012(UTC)
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#58 Posted : 21 September 2012 05:13:26(UTC)
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Lost Interest
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#59 Posted : 21 September 2012 05:26:32(UTC)
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Gazman wrote:
Lost Interest


I haven't lost interest completely, maybe a little...just lost a bit of patience. Hi
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2012(UTC)
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#60 Posted : 21 September 2012 15:39:18(UTC)
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If No are working on new material then Lost Sirens is probably dead.

Still, good to MOVE ON from all the crap of recent times.
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ROCKET MICK on 24/09/2012(UTC)
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#61 Posted : 21 September 2012 21:28:13(UTC)
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leather-girl wrote:
Gazman wrote:
Lost Interest


I haven't lost interest completely, maybe a little...just lost a bit of patience. Hi


Interests lost Eimi,Hellbent doesnt exactly leave me choking for more
and as the post above says,talk of a new album lets look forward to that (hopefully)
rather than an album of 'leftovers' Hi

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#62 Posted : 21 September 2012 22:02:00(UTC)
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Gazman wrote:
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Gazman wrote:
Lost Interest


I haven't lost interest completely, maybe a little...just lost a bit of patience. Hi


Interests lost Eimi,Hellbent doesnt exactly leave me choking for more
and as the post above says,talk of a new album lets look forward to that (hopefully)
rather than an album of 'leftovers' Hi



I admit that I'm more looking forward to anything new they may make sometime later.
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ROCKET MICK on 24/09/2012(UTC)
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#63 Posted : 21 September 2012 22:11:05(UTC)
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Gazman wrote:
leather-girl wrote:
Gazman wrote:
Lost Interest


I haven't lost interest completely, maybe a little...just lost a bit of patience. Hi


Interests lost Eimi,Hellbent doesnt exactly leave me choking for more
and as the post above says,talk of a new album lets look forward to that (hopefully)
rather than an album of 'leftovers' Hi



I admit that I'm more looking forward to anything new they may make sometime later.


New album = tour = more quality piss ups with the (un)usual suspects

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#64 Posted : 27 September 2012 06:05:58(UTC)
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Two stores which are legit HMV and RECORDSHOP are showing the release date now at OCT 29 2012, again it could be wrong like the hundred times before.


http://hmv.com/hmvweb/di...;-1;-1;-1&sku=480294

http://www.recordshopx.c...er/lost_sirens_lp_cd/#lp
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#65 Posted : 27 September 2012 09:53:30(UTC)
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That is hopeful news, though it looks like their both UK sites, so who knows when it would get released in the US. Hopefully it will be available electronically.
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#66 Posted : 27 September 2012 13:15:28(UTC)
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2012(UTC)
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#67 Posted : 28 September 2012 12:50:41(UTC)
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So the 26th and the 29th October on the above links and 30th October on this one:
http://www.recordstore.c...SE-DATE-TBC/1186E0000000
Is there something in the air?

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Let's wait for the official confirmation from :nuts: lol
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#69 Posted : 28 September 2012 13:37:22(UTC)
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bloody hell, didn't know MTV was still interested in music. Thought they knocked that on the head years ago

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#70 Posted : 28 September 2012 15:33:22(UTC)
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Sounds like a confident statement from MTV. Wonder if the legal stuff is sorted... Maybe we'll see something on the 'news' page soon.
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#71 Posted : 28 September 2012 17:14:04(UTC)
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Any confirmation from the band would be welcome. If true, it should be all over Newordernow.net.

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#72 Posted : 28 September 2012 18:34:38(UTC)
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Let's wait for the official confirmation from :nuts: lol


The official confirmation is there is no official confirmation.

Hope this helps two sheds! Hi

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#73 Posted : 29 September 2012 12:23:05(UTC)
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Debaser wrote:
So the 26th and the 29th October on the above links and 30th October on this one:
http://www.recordstore.c...SE-DATE-TBC/1186E0000000
Is there something in the air?




I've been keeping an eye on Recordstore for a few months now. They seem to change the release date every two weeks! I do hope there's finally some truth in this. Did Barney say it should be out by the end of year? Getting close now.
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#74 Posted : 02 October 2012 06:00:06(UTC)
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Says Hooky's gonna talk about it in part two of the God is in the tvzine article. Hmmm...
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#75 Posted : 02 October 2012 06:23:02(UTC)
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