...It’s been 10 years since its critically-acclaimed album, “Music Complete,” was delivered to fans, who are understandably craving a new project. Sumner says the delay comes down to general motivation to write again, with some members wanting to do so and others not being “too keen.”

“I’m one of the ones that does,” Sumner assures. “That’s all I can say, really.”

What?: L.A.Times.com

Which kind of reminded me that the writing credits on MC were just diplomatically "New Order" but the splits on the PRS database give a clearer picture

Everything is split:

Bernard 50% with Stephen, Gillian, Tom and Phil 12.5% each

Except for the 3 co-writes

Unlearn This Hatred - Tom Rowlands 35%, Bernard 40%, Stephen, Gillian, Tom and Phil 6.25% each

Singularity - Tom Rowlands 40%, Bernard 40% with Stephen, Gillian, Tom and Phil 5% each

Superheated - Brandon Flowers 20%, Bernard 70% with Tom and Phil 5% each

The latter surprised me as I always assumed it was mainly Brandon Flowers song!


EDIT

Be A Rebel has a slightly different split

Bernard 70%, Gillian and Steve 6.25% each, Phil 12.5% and Tom 5%

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If Uncle Bernard wants to release new music there is nothing to stop him IMO. If it's the same standard as Be A Rebel then maybe other members understandably don't want to proceed. I'm honestly fine if they never release new music unless it is substantially different. I don't want people older than me releasing disco-pop tunes - leave that to Sophie Ellis Bextor or Nile Rogers.

If the band does not want to release music he can make his own solo album, he has so many guitar riffs , lyrics and piano chords from over the years to easily make a great album, even if he made 1 song a year he could have finished 10 songs for an album by now, what is taking them so long to make something, I just don't get it, 10 years is TOO LONG.

Bernard 50%
Ryan Aitchison (Mella Dee) and a third unnamed non-PRS member 25% each

Likewise - another track based on a JD song that I hadn't heard
GW Sok - Around The Corner


And what on earth is "Aux Lagueurs Dapollon"

Credited to the 4 Joy Division members, but was only registered in September 2019 ?
Google not helping me

Laughable that they all get credits on the Ali Payama & Warp Brothers track "Blade" - because it samples the Pump Panel remix of Confusion (but not to my ears - any part that could be identified as being by NO)

And finally for today (I'm only up to B!)

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Yeah. I agree. Based on what we know*, this seems a little unlikely. Bernard, love him as I do, strikes me as one of the members most likely to put the brakes on.

I can imagine Steve and Gillian being receptive to it. They're presumably always tinkering around in their studio, so would probably have some ideas.
Maybe, if they are reluctant, it could be due to the fact that it will likely take years to make. Gone are the days when they could crack out an LP in a couple of months. Tracks seem to be endlessly 'perfected' these days.

As pointed out earlier in the thread, I can't imagine Phil or Tom would turn down a NO LP payday (although I guess they make far more money from touring).
They're younger and probably pretty keen to stamp their mark on the band's back catalogue. Also, even if they didn't want to, they might still go ahead with the other three's wishes. They certainly won't have as much weight when it comes to deciding the direction of the band and probably wouldn't want B, S & G getting to the point where they might be fed up with them.

But, I guess you have to take Bernard at his word.
In one way, this is possibly good news. As we suspected, and has been proved earlier in the thread, he's the main songwriter at present. If he's getting itchy feet on wanting write new material, there's a good chance he can persuade the others. More NO is always good and I'd much rather they were writing a new EP/LP than touring. They can tour it afterwards if they want. :-)



* Do we really know anything about the band's inner workings? Probably not, but it's fun to speculate.

How do the Control soundtrack credits differ? (Listed as "Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook and Stephen Morris" on my WB/Rhino release.)

This is mentioned in my book.

He could Have Definitely made another Bad Lieutenant album if the other NO Members were busy, I am sure Phil would have joined in with the others, it would have been a decent album that the fans would have loved.

if we go by when Joy Division formed (as Stiff Kittens), it's 50 years in June of next year. 50 years of music. That's more than enough.

There are so few examples of a late-period band releasing an album as good as Music Complete. I'm fine if that's it (I don't rate Be A Rebel).

It's a common misconception that artists are driven to work. For some people, creativity flows out of them naturally. For others, it takes an effort. Bernard will be 70 in January, with Stephen closing in on 68 and Gillian closing in on 65. If they want a slower pace with sporadic live shows, let them enjoy it. They don't owe us anything.

First update to the Tour page of their website in a long time: NewOrder.com

No shows for the rest of the calendar year, but that doesn't mean they're in the studio. Phil and Tom will be busy with Sea Fever. Don't hold your breath, people.