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Linus Solanki wrote:You can listen to the album in full here.
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In fact, I'm totally shocked how much I am enjoying this album. There's nothing that's utterly essential but there's also nothing that makes me cringe, and that I can't say about WFTSC, their worst album by a long stretch IMO.
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I'm totally shocked by the number of positive comments on here. I did my fair share of moaning about wanting to hear these tracks on the old forum. So on the plus side: Hurrah, here they are! On the not-so-plus side, I don't think there's anything on here as good as WFTSC, Krafty or Turn. I was hoping for something that would get me excited, but so far they all feel about as exciting as Hellbent did when it first appeared. I do have a soft spot for the Stuart Price mix of I Told You So, though now we have it on CD it appears to be slightly truncated which is a shame (and with more bluesy guitar in the latter stages too i think - so technically I guess it is a different mix).
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Debaser wrote:M1 wrote:
In fact, I'm totally shocked how much I am enjoying this album. There's nothing that's utterly essential but there's also nothing that makes me cringe, and that I can't say about WFTSC, their worst album by a long stretch IMO.
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I'm totally shocked by the number of positive comments on here. I did my fair share of moaning about wanting to hear these tracks on the old forum. So on the plus side: Hurrah, here they are! On the not-so-plus side, I don't think there's anything on here as good as WFTSC, Krafty or Turn. I was hoping for something that would get me excited, but so far they all feel about as exciting as Hellbent did when it first appeared. I do have a soft spot for the Stuart Price mix of I Told You So, though now we have it on CD it appears to be slightly truncated which is a shame (and with more bluesy guitar in the latter stages too i think - so technically I guess it is a different mix). I didn't like every song I've previewed, but it's better than I thought. I would be shocked if most responses (among the fans) were extremely negative. Maybe you think these songs aren't as good as the songs you mentioned, but quite a few of these songs are much better than certain other New Order songs, such as 'Jetstream', 'Working Overtime', 'Turn My Way' or 'Rock the Shack'. (I think those four songs are some of the worst New Order songs ever.) I would say 'Sugarcane' is almost equal quality to 'Krafty', and 'Shake it Up', is much better than Jetstream, IMO. Ironically, Hellbent, is one of my least faves.Edited by user 07 January 2013 16:50:55(UTC)
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I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. As for Lost Sirens, I'll stay with you is a instant NO classic. Some people may not like the lyrics to Sugarcane, but I's a great song. And I've got a feeling is the biggest surprise for me on how much I love it. The rest could be up to debate.
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Jim wrote:I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. As for Lost Sirens, I'll stay with you is a instant NO classic. Some people may not like the lyrics to Sugarcane, but I's a great song. And I've got a feeling is the biggest surprise for me on how much I love it. The rest could be up to debate. Love Turn My Way - and I'm only a temporary North American promise ;-) But those other 3 are howlers for sure
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but quite a few of these songs are much better than certain other New Order songs, such as 'Jetstream', 'Working Overtime', 'Turn My Way' or 'Rock the Shack'. (I think those four songs are some of the worst New Order songs ever.
'Turn My Way' is one of New Order greatest tunes, easily the best song on Get Ready. Can't believe you put it with the others
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gerboy wrote:leather-girl wrote:
but quite a few of these songs are much better than certain other New Order songs, such as 'Jetstream', 'Working Overtime', 'Turn My Way' or 'Rock the Shack'. (I think those four songs are some of the worst New Order songs ever.
'Turn My Way' is one of New Order greatest tunes, easily the best song on Get Ready. Can't believe you put it with the others I think Billy Corgan ruined that song....some other songs on 'Get Ready', such as 'Crystal', 'Someone Like You' etc are much better than 'Turn My Way' IMO. I'm not saying the songs on Lost Sirens are masterpieces; but they are much more listenable and likeable than some other NO songs. Edited by user 07 January 2013 18:24:30(UTC)
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Jim wrote:I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. As for Lost Sirens, I'll stay with you is a instant NO classic. Some people may not like the lyrics to Sugarcane, but I's a great song. And I've got a feeling is the biggest surprise for me on how much I love it. The rest could be up to debate. I don't like Billy Corgan or the Smashing Pumpkins, and even without him, I still think the song itself is only a so-so song. So I think it was a so-so song that was turned into a piece of rubbish with Billy Corgan on it. But regarding Lost Sirens, I do agree that 'I've got a feeling' is surprisingly decent.
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Jim wrote:I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. Turn My Way is favourite of mine from the post 2000 period also, I don't have a problem with Billy Corgans vocals on it but there is a version out there somewhere which doesn't feature his contribution, it was part of the Get Ready demos that popped up on the old forum a while back.. I think the Corgan collaboration was more successful than the one with the Scissor Sister person.. 
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Cranelane wrote:Jim wrote:I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. Turn My Way is favourite of mine from the post 2000 period also, I don't have a problem with Billy Corgans vocals on it but there is a version out there somewhere which doesn't feature his contribution, it was part of the Get Ready demos that popped up on the old forum a while back.. I think the Corgan collaboration was more successful than the one with the Scissor Sister person.. J E T with the hamster dance on Jonathan Ross is the pinnacle of the bands career |
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Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :)
Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work.
It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay.
Shame on the management, the label and the band.
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hunkydo wrote:
Shame on the management, the label and the band.
It's not like if someone forced you to buy it, right? Edited by user 08 January 2013 02:54:07(UTC)
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Cranelane wrote:I think the Corgan collaboration was more successful than the one with the Scissor Sister person.. I don't think Turn My Way was a "collaboration" in the truest sense of the word though. The track was clearly fully formed and recorded well before Corgan appeared as the "Shipwreck" mix shows. Add to that there's no Corgan co-write credit for the song on the Get Ready sleeve. Ana Matronic at least has a co-write credit on Jetstream. Corgan's vocals have always been divisive and personally I'm in the "not my cup of tea" group. The bit where him and Bernard "duet" on the "drank in every bar in town" bit make my toes curl every time. Otherwise, it's musically and creatively not a bad song; I warmed to it a whole lot more after hearing the "Shipwreck" mix sans Corgan. Bernard's lone vocal is much nicer. All subjective though innit.
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NotAMod wrote:Cranelane wrote:I think the Corgan collaboration was more successful than the one with the Scissor Sister person.. I don't think Turn My Way was a "collaboration" in the truest sense of the word though. The track was clearly fully formed and recorded well before Corgan appeared as the "Shipwreck" mix shows. Add to that there's no Corgan co-write credit for the song on the Get Ready sleeve. Ana Matronic at least has a co-write credit on Jetstream. Corgan's vocals have always been divisive and personally I'm in the "not my cup of tea" group. The bit where him and Bernard "duet" on the "drank in every bar in town" bit make my toes curl every time. Otherwise, it's musically and creatively not a bad song; I warmed to it a whole lot more after hearing the "Shipwreck" mix sans Corgan. Bernard's lone vocal is much nicer. All subjective though innit. Agree that it's subjective.
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At sunset I went to the beach to relax with a bottle of wine and Lost Sirens in my headphones. I had a great time. Melancholy filled up the beach as the evening sun touched the horizon. Failed surfers and thievish accountants reached to their cocktail glasses but the despair was unquenchable. Lost Sirens is a perfect dusk record. The album really grows on me.
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hunkydo wrote:Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :)
Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work.
It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay.
Shame on the management, the label and the band.
Ha ha, great first post! I don't know where to even begin....
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hunkydo wrote:Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :)
Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work.
It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay.
Shame on the management, the label and the band.
Troll...? Although the reactions are mixed on these boards, at least their criticism is sincere. You've caught me at a bad time. So why don't you piss off.
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leather-girl wrote:hunkydo wrote:Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :)
Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work.
It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay.
Shame on the management, the label and the band.
Troll...? Although the reactions are mixed on these boards, at least their criticism is sincere. You've caught me at a bad time. So why don't you piss off. Lost Sirens is not bad as people are making it out to be, if NO never broke up they would have made this album much better by going back to the studio and working on it , but that is not the case, these songs are still good but not classics like their other ones. |
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Linus Solanki wrote:Lost Sirens is not bad as people are making it out to be, if NO never broke up they would have made this album much better by going back to the studio and working on it , but that is not the case, these songs are still good but not classics like their other ones. Not entirely sure they'd have made it 'much better' but they certainly wouldn't have released this. I like the production here, sounds a lot more 'raw' than recent offerings - I fear if they'd had spent more time on this album they'd have dumbed it down considerably and probably drowned it in a lot more bells & whistles. Then again, more time spent on this might've removed some of the repetition - Shake It Up is a good two minutes too long, as if they'd got something very basic to work with and just kept repeating stuff ad infinitum.
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El Jarvo wrote:Linus Solanki wrote:Lost Sirens is not bad as people are making it out to be, if NO never broke up they would have made this album much better by going back to the studio and working on it , but that is not the case, these songs are still good but not classics like their other ones. Not entirely sure they'd have made it 'much better' but they certainly wouldn't have released this. I like the production here, sounds a lot more 'raw' than recent offerings - I fear if they'd had spent more time on this album they'd have dumbed it down considerably and probably drowned it in a lot more bells & whistles. Then again, more time spent on this might've removed some of the repetition - Shake It Up is a good two minutes too long, as if they'd got something very basic to work with and just kept repeating stuff ad infinitum. Nice comment Al. Thought it was me writing that  |
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First post on the new forum... I wasn't arsed to find out how to retrieve my password after the move, considering the lack of interesting NO news. I've listened to the lost tracks today, only once so it's still too early to form an opinion, but I must say that I was positively impressed by the new mix of I Told You So. I've always considered
1) this song to be crap
2) Stuart Price to produce shit.
However, it seems that crap + shit can sometimes lead to something good. This version of ITYS is very reminiscent of Velvet Underground's I'm Set Free, and I like it a lot! A very good surprise, and one that I would never have expected.
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I've listened to it several times today and it is ... underwhelming as is. poorly sequenced, and not helped by the abundance of mid-paced songs in the middle that make the album drag. I spliced in some of the Control tracks and padded out to 11 songs/43m.41s.
1. Hypnosis (edited speech at beginning/end)
2. I'll Stay With You
3. Shake It Up
4. I've Got A Feeling
5. Hellbent
6. Get Out (edited shouting at beginning)
7. Californian Grass
8. Recoil
9. Sugarcane
10. I Told You So
11. Exit
Some of the mixes seem a little unfinished and the song titles are a little obvious - I'd say 95% done - but perhaps occasionally a bar or two too long and / or fading instead of a proper finish, and probably the least satisfactory LP-length product since the Factus 8 1981-82 EP, but still, worth our time and attentiona nd I am glad it is finally out.
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Quote: This version of ITYS is very reminiscent of Velvet Underground's I'm Set Free, and I like it a lot! Surely you mean 'All Tomorrow's Parties'?
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