So, it looks like I was correct in my assumption that Skullcrusher might've been attempted at the time of Low Life, with a demo appearing as track 14 on CD2.

I wonder if it's instrumental or one with lyrics.

Looking at the listing for CD2, and based on the format of Power, Corruption & Lies 'writing session' tracks, it seems possible that 'Sooner Than You Think – Album Session Unedited Version' (*) might be the only track with vocals on that disc.


* Incidentally, this is what the New Order Store calls it. Qobuz is listing it as 'Sooner Than You Think (Full Length Version)'. Semantics, I know.

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Just listening to the Cargo demos on my way home.
My word. They were magnificent. Best band ever.

I’ll do some asking around.

Credit to you Fotz for doing a bit of research on dates etc. That will help narrow things down a bit.

I think that the box sets were initially on the store as follows:

Movement (April 2019) £120.00
Power, Corruption & Lies (October 2020) £112.99
Low Life (January 2023) £149.99

So, the increase to £149.99, although fairly hefty, isn't as bad as £60.
An increase of £30 in almost four years on Movement, so about £7.50 per year inflation. Not that bad, when you think about it that way. Especially considering the current economic crisis.

I guess they can afford to sell the previous two sets at a discounted price a) because they may well have covered their costs, profit margins etc. by now and b) they want to sell off excess stock.


All that being said, I totally get the fact that this is a pricey article, and there's a certain amount of sense in waiting for the inevitable price drop.

I will be getting on day of release though. I'm not exactly patient and want to get my hands on this stuff straight away. Besides, I'm also always worried that these things might sell out before I get my hands on them (just because they have stock of the older sets still, doesn't necessarily mean that they will have the same number of sets of Low Life in their warehouse in a few months time).

I remember deciding to wait for a significant price drop on one of the Bowie 'era' box sets ('Loving The Alien'). That never really happened, and the set is now discontinued (much to my annoyance). Previous sets hung around for ages and prices dropped considerably.

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I'm afraid I had a bad experience with the New Order Store (run by Warner Bros, actually) a couple of years ago on a "Blue Monday Sale" order. The product didn't appear and it took a couple of months for them to send a replacement order. Since then, the site never seems able to retrieve my account info. I haven't changed my email or password, but always get the "Invalid Login" error. I've clicked the "Forgot Password" button to change it in the UK and US stores but never receive the appropriate email to do so.

But again, the Guest option works as I've since received orders of a Taras shirt and two New Order Crew shirts (one from each region's store - they are identical, by the way) with no issues. But unless there's a NewOrderStore exclusive (like The Perfect Kiss 12"), I'll end up using Amazon.

Yep, exactly same for me.

I hope the price hike doesn't prevent ongoing releases. By the time Technique comes around it could be 200+, especially with cost of living crisis and all that as I'm currently removing slats from my lodgers bed to use for firewood.

I got the Movement box set for about 70 recently but as beautiful as it is I've only listened/watched it once. The video stuff is not really interesting to me. I remember recording Edinburgh/Glasgow/Leeds in early 1985 so had the good fortune (or not) of hearing the LowLife tracks in advance. Always felt Face Upcame off better live.

Really hoping let’s go is issued on vinyl as some sort of record store day. Vocal one side instrumental the other.

Very good points. I feel the same

Hmm, I wonder why their link doesn't include the YouTube upload. Here it is:

Woah. Thanks for that, P & D. Interesting to hear the differences from the album version.

Sounds like they did a couple of runs through the instrumental album version, playing about with the volume levels of various parts, then edited the best bits together, as there's parts of the track you hear more than once (like the four snare drum hits at the start of the track, and Barney's fast strumming in the middle of the song, both of which you hear twice in this version).

Well - there are no word/lyrics being sung, beyond the doo-doo-doo backing vocals, but yeah I see your point :)

Weird that they did such a long edit. Like someone might need to do a 6 minute TV montage of something

Love it though!