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#1 Posted : 30 July 2015 23:29:25(UTC)
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Hi,

Just received an email notification from HMV Japan regarding this - wonder if the faults of the original release (Blue Monday false start etc) will have been rectified?

The track listing is in Japanese: Singles (2015 Remastered Version) Eek
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#2 Posted : 31 July 2015 02:06:32(UTC)
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track 17 on disc two is I'll stay with you Eek
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#3 Posted : 31 July 2015 11:53:56(UTC)
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Maybe Run 2 will actually make an appearance.

They've done away with the bonus tracks. My original Japanese copy has Everything's Gone Green - Cicada Mix and Bizarre Love Triangle - Richard X Remix (Edit) at the end of the second disc.
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#4 Posted : 31 July 2015 14:53:50(UTC)
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...and fix the left and right channels (which were the wrong way round for many of the tracks).

And feature the actual 7 inch mix of Confusion (rather than the edited Rough Mix that was on there).

And replace Turn (which was never actually a single) with Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (which was a US single).

And feature the Minimix of Spooky (which was the official single mix) rather than the album edit (which wasn't).

And include the Arthur Baker Radio Mix of 1963 (which was the single version) rather than the edit of 1963-94 (which wasn't). And put it on there after Spooky when it was actually released as a single.

And include the actual 7 inch single remix of Bizarre Love Triangle rather than the Brotherhood album version.

And how about the original, 4:24 7 inch version of The Perfect Kiss (different to the unique, but erroneous single edit on Total) rather than the Low-life album version.

And feature the original 7 inch mix of True Faith instead of the 12 inch (to be consistent with the other 7 inch single versions on this compilation).

And feature the extremely rare, original 7 inch version of Blue Monday instead of the widely available 12 inch mix, whilst dropping the 1988 version to avoid repetition. Or ditch the 1983 Blue Monday altogether (which didn't have an official 7 inch release) in favour of the 1988 7 inch version.

...Just like I've done in my ITunes playlist.

And why include I'll Stay With You (not a single)?

And why release it now? Why not remaster and re-release it in a year to include the next batch of up upcoming singles..?

How odd.

Had forgotten just how many errors there were with this release!

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#5 Posted : 31 July 2015 15:56:19(UTC)
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^ Impressive stuff. I think.
I'm pretty sure I had a problem ripping the CD to my laptop without every track sounding massively distorted. I think that's a Warners thing, but I could be wrong.

Regarding waiting for the next batch of singles - it's new label now. I don't imagine Warners have any entitlement to stuff released on Mute.
It's a cash in job to try to get people to purchase it whilst purchasing Music Complete I suspect.
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#6 Posted : 31 July 2015 16:29:00(UTC)
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...and...


You forgot Blue Monday-95.
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#7 Posted : 01 August 2015 23:51:01(UTC)
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Someone needs a hobby.
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#8 Posted : 02 August 2015 04:45:29(UTC)
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Nice. I'll be placing a pre-order.

As Mr Discography has already covered hopefully this new pressing will correct most of the omissions from the original decade-old compilation but I suspect aside from the addition of ISWY it will probably be much the same. Hope to be proven wrong though. More importantly I hope the new mastering does the music justice. The original 2005 release was loud, brick-walled and generally just headache-inducing to listen to after a while. I know a lot of fans don't give a flying fudge about that type of thing but if you're trying to enjoy the music on a decent rig the original compilation was not ideal. They got the sound much better on the fixed Collector's Edition bonus discs and Total/Lost Sirens so hopefully Giovanni Scatola or Frank Arkwright will be involved.

Turn was definitely going to be a single but was cancelled at the last minute. Hooky spoke about it in an NME interview at the time mentioning that WFTSC (Tribute Mix) would be the b-side but obviously nothing materialised beyond the ultra-rare Tribute Mix 10". The version of Turn we got on Singles was clearly a new radio edit so perhaps the compilation was finalised before it was pulled. I'll Stay With You was released on a dutch promotional CDR around the time of Lost Sirens so if it had been ten years earlier it most likely would have been a single. It certainly had 'single' or 'key track' written all over it upon first listening; New Order through and through.

Could this be the beginning of a steady roll out of quality remasters of other neglected New Order releases? We've just had Joy Division's Substance reissued, why not New Order's?

A decent Republic reissue also wouldn't go amiss.
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#9 Posted : 02 August 2015 14:55:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
...and fix the left and right channels (which were the wrong way round for many of the tracks).

And feature the actual 7 inch mix of Confusion (rather than the edited Rough Mix that was on there).

And replace Turn (which was never actually a single) with Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (which was a US single).

And feature the Minimix of Spooky (which was the official single mix) rather than the album edit (which wasn't).

And include the Arthur Baker Radio Mix of 1963 (which was the single version) rather than the edit of 1963-94 (which wasn't). And put it on there after Spooky when it was actually released as a single.

And include the actual 7 inch single remix of Bizarre Love Triangle rather than the Brotherhood album version.

And how about the original, 4:24 7 inch version of The Perfect Kiss (different to the unique, but erroneous single edit on Total) rather than the Low-life album version.

And feature the original 7 inch mix of True Faith instead of the 12 inch (to be consistent with the other 7 inch single versions on this compilation).

And feature the extremely rare, original 7 inch version of Blue Monday instead of the widely available 12 inch mix, whilst dropping the 1988 version to avoid repetition. Or ditch the 1983 Blue Monday altogether (which didn't have an official 7 inch release) in favour of the 1988 7 inch version.


Good points, all of them (if it was up to me, I'd have included Murder instead of BM88). Shouldn't Perfect Kiss be the Ivan Ivan edit (3:50-ish) that's on the second UK 7" (but who knows if there's a usable master tape for that..)?

It's probably too late to change anything now, as this is only 2 months away, but it looks like they've moved 1963 in the way you suggest above, which hopefully means there are other differences too! Fingers crossed..

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#10 Posted : 03 August 2015 04:52:57(UTC)
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Yeah, shame they dropped 'Muder'.
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#11 Posted : 03 August 2015 08:13:40(UTC)
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Someone needs a hobby.


Totally unfair. Clearly, with the surname Discography, he had no choice but to continue the vocation of his heritage.

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#12 Posted : 03 August 2015 09:38:56(UTC)
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Someone needs a hobby.


Totally unfair. Clearly, with the surname Discography, he had no choice but to continue the vocation of his heritage.



As Jimmy Carr said on guinea pigs: 'The clue there is in the name.'

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#13 Posted : 03 August 2015 11:58:25(UTC)
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The 'Singles' poster doesn't show Turn
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#14 Posted : 04 August 2015 00:31:02(UTC)
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It does beg the question why they don't ask the people who know when putting these things together (ie the fans). New Order's catalogue is full of errors.
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#15 Posted : 04 August 2015 04:25:26(UTC)
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Yeah, there were strong rumours circa 2005 that 'Turd' would be a single:
- the '7" edit at the end of 'Singles'
- artwork of a Terne (tee hee, or maybe terne hee)
- no less than three vids made
- the WFTSC megamix as a B-side...
However a punter asked DJ Hooky about it and he said, 'I have no idea.' I got the impression it gave way to the 12 x 12" shambles, which in typical NO style raised more questions than it answered. ('Retro', anyone?)

Edited by user 22 August 2015 08:59:49(UTC)  | Reason: Complete (see what I did there?)

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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, there were strong rumours circa 2005 that 'Turd' would be a single:
- the '7" edit at the end of 'Singles'
- artwork of a Terne (tee hee, or maybe terne hee)
- the WFTSC megamix as a B-side...
However a punter asked DJ Hooky about it and he said, 'I have no idea.' I got the impression it gave way to the 12 x 12" shambles, which in typical NO style raised more questions than it answered. ('Retro', anyone?)


I remember that whole fiasco. First it was going to come out, then it wasn't, then it was...I believe it was called the "Prairie Dog Remix".
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Tracklisting - it's also being released on 4LP 180g vinyl and 2xCD outside of Japan:

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-349061-new-order-singles-limited-edition-180g-vinyl-4lp-box-set.aspx

New Order - Singles (Limited Edition 180g Vinyl 4LP Box Set)

Brand: RHINO RECORDS
Category: Music, Vinyl LP, 180g Vinyl, Box Sets.
SKU: LDN69620
Availability: October 16, 2015


Track Listing
LP1
1. Ceremony
2. Procession
3. Everything's Gone Green (7" Version)
4. Temptation (Original 7" Version)
5. Blue Monday
6. Confusion (UK 7" Promo Edit)
7. Thieves Like Us (7" Version)

LP2
1. The Perfect Kiss (7" Edit)
2. Sub-Culture (7" Version)
3. Shellshock (7" Version)
4. State Of The Nation (7" Version)
5. Bizarre Love Triangle (7" Remix Edit)
6. True Faith (7" Edit)
7. Touched By The Hand Of God (7" Version)
8. Blue Monday '88 (7" Version)

LP3
1. Fine Time (7" Version)
2. Round And Round (7" Version)
3. Run 2 (7" Remix Edit)
4. World In Motion (7" Version)
5. Regret (7" Version)
6. Ruined In A Day (7" Edit)
7. World (The Price Of Love) (7" Version)
8. Spooky (Radio Album Edit)

LP4
1. Nineteen63 (Arthur Baker Radio Remix)
2. Crystal (CD Single Mix)
3. 60 Miles An Hour (CD Single Mix)
4. Here To Stay (Radio Edit)
5. Krafty (Single Edit)
6. Jetstream (Radio Edit)
7. Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Rich Costey Radio Edit)
8. Turn (Stephen Street Edit)
9. I'll Stay With You (Lost Sirens LP Version)

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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Had forgotten just how many errors there were with this release!


If the tracklisting I've posted above is correct, most of your prayers appear to have been answered... Of course, without listening to it... :p

Oh, btw, was the Stephen Street edit of "Turn" ever released? I can't remember?

Cool

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Yes, it seems they've actually done their homework this time. Still, there is the risk of things being mislabelled, but hopefully not.

Let me guess we'll get the Total 7" edit of Perfect Kiss, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

They must hate the Fluke mix of 'Spooky' as it's still not on there.. what's weird is that the Republic LP reissue track listing also has this 'radio album edit' - surely some mistake?
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Yes, it seems they've actually done their homework this time. Still, there is the risk of things being mislabelled, but hopefully not.

Let me guess we'll get the Total 7" edit of Perfect Kiss, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

They must hate the Fluke mix of 'Spooky' as it's still not on there.. what's weird is that the Republic LP reissue track listing also has this 'radio album edit' - surely some mistake?


We'll have to listen to it first - it wouldn't be the first time stuff has been mislabelled! Tongue

Hopefully the "radio album edit" is a mistake but, again, we'll have to wait and see...

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I must have fallen asleep and are dreaming. Singles on quadruple vinyl? All nicely corrected? Best get saving as the autumn looks expensive!

Btw: fricking I'll stay with you????
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#22 Posted : 05 August 2015 03:49:07(UTC)
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I remember that whole fiasco. First it was going to come out, then it wasn't, then it was...I believe it was called the "Prairie Dog Remix".


Personally I think 'Turd' would've been a good single and a great closer to that period, just a tad hard to remix - far better'n 'Jetstream', which I actually don't mind, especially in its remixed forms.
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Is the singles box set getting a UK release?
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Is the singles box set getting a UK release?



Of course.
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Come to think of it I am surprised that "Hellbent" isn't on there.

Given that it was on Total (a singles collection) and was issued on at least two promotional CDrs at the time.

No big deal though.
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