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Andy		#1 Posted : 21 November 2015 11:12:38(UTC)
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keepitcoming		#2 Posted : 21 November 2015 12:35:53(UTC)
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keepitcoming		#3 Posted : 21 November 2015 12:37:38(UTC)
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Baggie Boiler		#4 Posted : 22 November 2015 02:14:17(UTC)
Rank: Member with Technique Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: in a house Thanks: 894 times Was thanked: 1022 time(s) in 811 post(s)		Wolves Civic is a great venue - COME ON !
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Get Ready		#5 Posted : 22 November 2015 09:02:56(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 07/07/2015(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Birmingham Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 144 time(s) in 110 post(s)		Third time at Wolves. First time they played - 1986: Love Vigilantes, Bizarre Love Triangle, Hurt, Sunrise, Elegia, Leave Me Alone, Everything's Gone Greeen, Subculture, Face Up, Broken Promise, The Perfect Kiss Right up against the stage, bruised ribs, tinnitus for a week, drumstick grabbed after the Perfect Kiss, covered in beer, Gillian smiled at me, stage invasions, fantastic gig. Second time they played - 2006: Crystal, Turn, Regret, Ceremony, Who's Joe?, Transmission, Krafty, Waiting For The Sirens' Call, Atmosphere, Guilt Is A Useless Emotion, Bizarre Love Triangle, Temptation, The Perfect Kiss, Blue Monday (encore) Love Will Tear Us Apart, True Faith Up in the balcony, lots of sensible middle aged and middle class punters, poor sound (Barney sounded like he was in a metal dustbin), flat atmosphere, front row (standing) beneath me were some distance from the stage with a large walkway for the many bouncers - no idea why because the average age was around 45 and many wouldn't have been capable of lifting a leg over the barrier let alone diving on the stage like they did in '86. So for this one I decided to try the standing in front of the stage route again, hoping that they reduce the length of no man's land. Seen other recent gigs on YouTube from the Civic and fans were allowed within four feet (or less) of the stage. The thing is, the sound is bloody awful for most bands (check out Manic Street Preachers and others from this year) UNLESS you are right down the front. Forget it if you are up in the balcony or standing in the stalls towards the back - by the time the sound reaches you, most of it has been sucked into the ear canals of the front few rows of standing punters on the main floor and you are left with an echoey, tinny mess - like listening to someone's Walkman on the bus back in the 80's and trying to work out what the hell they are listening to. If it's your first time there, beware the six doors - they don't tell you which one they are going to open. First two gigs above, I waited for hours but those piling out the pubs at the last second got in the same time as me. The sensible makeshift queue up the steps got lost in a stampede as sheer aggression trumped all.

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chant		#6 Posted : 22 November 2015 10:29:59(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 19/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: taiwan Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 23 post(s)		Thanks for the tips Mr./Miss Get Ready! I was there back in 06, queuing but got to get to the first row, didn't remember the six doors- guess I was lucky. Hope they improve the door thing this time! If you see a tiny brunette queuing there guess that would be me!
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Get Ready		#7 Posted : 22 November 2015 12:00:40(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 07/07/2015(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Birmingham Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 144 time(s) in 110 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chant Thanks for the tips Mr./Miss Get Ready! I was there back in 06, queuing but got to get to the first row, didn't remember the six doors- guess I was lucky. Hope they improve the door thing this time! If you see a tiny brunette queuing there guess that would be me! I'll be there two hours early again - a bit obsessive like that Up the Wolves

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Fotzepolitic		#8 Posted : 24 November 2015 03:09:28(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Get Ready Third time at Wolves. First time they played - 1986: Love Vigilantes, Bizarre Love Triangle, Hurt, Sunrise, Elegia, Leave Me Alone, Everything's Gone Greeen, Subculture, Face Up, Broken Promise, The Perfect Kiss Right up against the stage, bruised ribs, tinnitus for a week, drumstick grabbed after the Perfect Kiss, covered in beer, Gillian smiled at me, stage invasions, fantastic gig. Second time they played - 2006: Crystal, Turn, Regret, Ceremony, Who's Joe?, Transmission, Krafty, Waiting For The Sirens' Call, Atmosphere, Guilt Is A Useless Emotion, Bizarre Love Triangle, Temptation, The Perfect Kiss, Blue Monday (encore) Love Will Tear Us Apart, True Faith Up in the balcony, lots of sensible middle aged and middle class punters, poor sound (Barney sounded like he was in a metal dustbin), flat atmosphere, front row (standing) beneath me were some distance from the stage with a large walkway for the many bouncers - no idea why because the average age was around 45 and many wouldn't have been capable of lifting a leg over the barrier let alone diving on the stage like they did in '86. So for this one I decided to try the standing in front of the stage route again, hoping that they reduce the length of no man's land. Seen other recent gigs on YouTube from the Civic and fans were allowed within four feet (or less) of the stage. The thing is, the sound is bloody awful for most bands (check out Manic Street Preachers and others from this year) UNLESS you are right down the front. Forget it if you are up in the balcony or standing in the stalls towards the back - by the time the sound reaches you, most of it has been sucked into the ear canals of the front few rows of standing punters on the main floor and you are left with an echoey, tinny mess - like listening to someone's Walkman on the bus back in the 80's and trying to work out what the hell they are listening to. If it's your first time there, beware the six doors - they don't tell you which one they are going to open. First two gigs above, I waited for hours but those piling out the pubs at the last second got in the same time as me. The sensible makeshift queue up the steps got lost in a stampede as sheer aggression trumped all. I was at 2006 gig, can't recall either way what the sound was like..Also saw Happy Mondays there way back in 1992- it was as they were disintegrating and it was a shit gig. I think it'll be a good atmosphere tonight but have concerns about the sound now after what you've said Wasn't that impressed with how the sound at Brixton last Tuesday didn't travel very well to the back,i had to get nearer front

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chant		#9 Posted : 24 November 2015 04:41:45(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 19/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: taiwan Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 23 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Get Ready If it's your first time there, beware the six doors - they don't tell you which one they are going to open. First two gigs above, I waited for hours but those piling out the pubs at the last second got in the same time as me. The sensible makeshift queue up the steps got lost in a stampede as sheer aggression trumped all. Checking out the venue now.. I see the six doors!! Hope they arrange that well. See you tonight!
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Get Ready		#10 Posted : 24 November 2015 06:19:40(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 07/07/2015(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Birmingham Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 144 time(s) in 110 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chant Originally Posted by: Get Ready If it's your first time there, beware the six doors - they don't tell you which one they are going to open. First two gigs above, I waited for hours but those piling out the pubs at the last second got in the same time as me. The sensible makeshift queue up the steps got lost in a stampede as sheer aggression trumped all. Checking out the venue now.. I see the six doors!! Hope they arrange that well. See you tonight! About to leave myself, even though I am only 12 miles away in sunny Birmingham. Must have checked my ticket a hundred times already - like you do when checking you have your passport when going abroad. "Definitely in the top right pocket" "But you bent over earlier and it might have slipped out" "Good thinking, think I will check one more time - yep definitely there" Five minutes later... "It could have fallen out whilst you were checking to see if it was there, you know" And so the circle continues. Anyway, for anybody coming by train - last train out of Wolverhampton is at 23:23hrs if going in the direction of Birmingham (South). Assuming they come on at nine, then should be alright. I wonder if Iggy Pop will make an appearance?

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Get Ready		#11 Posted : 24 November 2015 09:07:47(UTC)
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chant		#12 Posted : 24 November 2015 11:30:20(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 19/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: taiwan Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 23 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chant Originally Posted by: Get Ready If it's your first time there, beware the six doors - they don't tell you which one they are going to open. First two gigs above, I waited for hours but those piling out the pubs at the last second got in the same time as me. The sensible makeshift queue up the steps got lost in a stampede as sheer aggression trumped all. Checking out the venue now.. I see the six doors!! Hope they arrange that well. See you tonight! This time the two doors on the left hand side didn't open.. They used four doors only. We have to note this so when we get back here in ten years we won't forget :p Thanks Mr. Get Ready! :D
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chant		#13 Posted : 24 November 2015 15:36:28(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 19/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: taiwan Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 23 post(s)		Tonight Bernard sang Running out of Luck with Jake again. Ironically I think that song is dedicated to me since I was told that Hooky's gig is postponed... AND they dropped two songs tonight- AoC and 586 (one of my favourites in this tour)!!! With no replacements, making the setlist 17 songs only.
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Andy		#14 Posted : 24 November 2015 15:52:50(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1654 times Was thanked: 3335 time(s) in 2238 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chant Tonight Bernard sang Running out of Luck with Jake again. Ironically I think that song is dedicated to me since I was told that Hooky's gig is postponed... AND they dropped two songs tonight- AoC and 586 (one of my favourites in this tour)!!! With no replacements, making the setlist 17 songs only. Sorry to hear that. Aside from the shorter set, how did the gig compare to the other ones you've attended recently?
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Baggie Boiler		#15 Posted : 24 November 2015 16:38:01(UTC)
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Fotzepolitic		#16 Posted : 24 November 2015 16:41:52(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Good gig.Crystal instead of AOC.Don't know why they dropped 586 tonight.My worries that the sound might not be great were proved unfounded- the sound was really good i thought.Didn't do the moshpit tonight and couldn't really see over peoples heads to see if it was lively or not but the audience standing were generally enthusiastic, dancing and hands in the air though the people in the seats in the upper balconies looked a bit subdued.Highlights for me were Ceremony, Your Silent Face, Tutti Frutti, Temptation, Atmosphere and even Blue fricking Monday.All very mysterious where Bernard nips off to during the intro to BM Good to bump into Digi and Rocket and even Missy Jem.

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Baggie Boiler		#17 Posted : 24 November 2015 17:44:01(UTC)
Rank: Member with Technique Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: in a house Thanks: 894 times Was thanked: 1022 time(s) in 811 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Good gig.Crystal instead of AOC.Don't know why they dropped 586 tonight.My worries that the sound might not be great were proved unfounded- the sound was really good i thought.Didn't do the moshpit tonight and couldn't really see over peoples heads to see if it was lively or not but the audience standing were generally enthusiastic, dancing and hands in the air though the people in the seats in the upper balconies looked a bit subdued.Highlights for me were Ceremony, Your Silent Face, Tutti Frutti, Temptation, Atmosphere and even Blue fricking Monday.All very mysterious where Bernard nips off to during the intro to BM Good to bump into Digi and Rocket and even Missy Jem. All goes too quick, hope to visit yer shed again soon
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Get Ready		#18 Posted : 24 November 2015 18:04:59(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 07/07/2015(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Birmingham Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 144 time(s) in 110 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chant Tonight Bernard sang Running out of Luck with Jake again. Ironically I think that song is dedicated to me since I was told that Hooky's gig is postponed... AND they dropped two songs tonight- AoC and 586 (one of my favourites in this tour)!!! With no replacements, making the setlist 17 songs only. Good to meet you, Chant - managed to get my train with 8 minutes to spare. Loads of people on the platform heading for Birmingham and checking their mobile footage. You could hear LWTUA, Atmosphere, Blue Monday, Tutti Frutti, Singularity and others all playing simultaneously along the length of platform three. Just in the process of uploading a few songs to YouTube (think I have 12 of the 15 played tonight).

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chant		#19 Posted : 24 November 2015 18:12:09(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 19/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: taiwan Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 23 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Andy Sorry to hear that. Aside from the shorter set, how did the gig compare to the other ones you've attended recently? I actually quite enjoyed the crowd tonight.. When I was in London I thought how come the fans have become so calm and peaceful!?! No pushing or squeezing on Ceremony? :p Tonight more people shouted out loud and the sing-along was fantastic... It's so moving when everyone sings Perfect Kiss so loud all together... Not to mention the crazy Temptation time! I have to thank the guy standing behind me, otherwise I'll definitely get more bruises. Speaking of bruises, here's one I got in Glasgow 10 years ago :) [img=https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/chant/2588503719/sizes/m/]new order bruise[/img] The sound was good in the front. I'd only complain the 1st night in London. Others sound much better than that. So in conclusion, I really enjoyed it, and it was nice meeting Get Ready and Liam and listened to their New Order related stories. I really wish I was in the 80's gigs!!! (Or maybe I did! And then I reincarnated into another NO fan.. Lol)
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chant		#20 Posted : 24 November 2015 18:33:49(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 19/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: taiwan Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 23 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Get Ready Good to meet you, Chant - managed to get my train with 8 minutes to spare. Loads of people on the platform heading for Birmingham and checking their mobile footage. You could hear LWTUA, Atmosphere, Blue Monday, Tutti Frutti, Singularity and others all playing simultaneously along the length of platform three. Just in the process of uploading a few songs to YouTube (think I have 12 of the 15 played tonight). Nice meeting you too! Hey that sounds like a scene I'd like to be in!! Should have walked to the station and have a look :p I recorded some of them too but too bad I won't have broadband access these days.. Might need to wait until early next week. (Since I already arranged everything in Belfast I might just go anyway!) will update then!
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Get Ready		#21 Posted : 24 November 2015 19:06:04(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 07/07/2015(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Birmingham Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 144 time(s) in 110 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chant Originally Posted by: Get Ready Good to meet you, Chant - managed to get my train with 8 minutes to spare. Loads of people on the platform heading for Birmingham and checking their mobile footage. You could hear LWTUA, Atmosphere, Blue Monday, Tutti Frutti, Singularity and others all playing simultaneously along the length of platform three. Just in the process of uploading a few songs to YouTube (think I have 12 of the 15 played tonight). Nice meeting you too! Hey that sounds like a scene I'd like to be in!! Should have walked to the station and have a look :p I recorded some of them too but too bad I won't have broadband access these days.. Might need to wait until early next week. (Since I already arranged everything in Belfast I might just go anyway!) will update then! The sound is pretty poor in places through my phone, but here is Running Out of Luck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUjW-b-p-TM

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Get Ready		#22 Posted : 24 November 2015 20:04:27(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 07/07/2015(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Birmingham Thanks: 37 times Was thanked: 144 time(s) in 110 post(s)		Lonesome Tonight from what is now last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBIaQ8G9T8

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Fotzepolitic		#23 Posted : 25 November 2015 02:21:09(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Bernard cracked me how he said after BLT they'd NEVER played that version before and then he said the same after WFTSC I remember Gillian doing her mock exasperation/annoyance with Bernard taking over the synth on Blue Monday. Got in to the venue just as Bernard finished doing Running Out Of Luck with Jake Evans.

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Suspicious minds		#24 Posted : 25 November 2015 02:37:22(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 25/11/2015(UTC) Posts: 1 Location: Wales Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)		New to the forum, but was gutted that tickets were sold out at the civic when i found out. I saw them there in '86, seem to remember them having to restart eligia and i'm sure barney threw his strat on the stage at the end of the gig. Later that year i met them at the signing for brotherhood at the hmv in birmingham. Happy days!

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Baggie Boiler		#25 Posted : 25 November 2015 03:18:24(UTC)
Rank: Member with Technique Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: in a house Thanks: 894 times Was thanked: 1022 time(s) in 811 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Get Ready Originally Posted by: chant Tonight Bernard sang Running out of Luck with Jake again. Ironically I think that song is dedicated to me since I was told that Hooky's gig is postponed... AND they dropped two songs tonight- AoC and 586 (one of my favourites in this tour)!!! With no replacements, making the setlist 17 songs only. Good to meet you, Chant - managed to get my train with 8 minutes to spare. Loads of people on the platform heading for Birmingham and checking their mobile footage. You could hear LWTUA, Atmosphere, Blue Monday, Tutti Frutti, Singularity and others all playing simultaneously along the length of platform three. Just in the process of uploading a few songs to YouTube (think I have 12 of the 15 played tonight). Could you upload all your footage please as my audio recording failed? Regards Mike
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