OK, I may be getting (wayyyyyyy!) ahead of myself, but I thought it might be fun to predict what might be on the next boxset, after 'Movement'.

Yes, I'm probably being a bit hopeful with suggestions here but, who knows, by listing stuff here, the powers that be might see it and make it happen. It therefore might be a good idea to get an early start here.

So, going on the template that 'Movement' Deluxe has set, we should possibly plan for a 1 x vinyl, 2 x CD, 1 x DVD (plus book) set, with the vinyl and 1 x CD taken up with the original LP, lovingly restored.

Therefore, we only need to speculate on the other CD and the DVD:

Edited by user 20 January 2019 08:33:25(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

DVD:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and hope that the 'music videos' are going to be included on the box-sets. If so, we could probably include the following:

Blue Monday (original video) (are there problems with copyright on this one though?)
Confusion
Primitive 5.8.6 (original video from Haçienda opening; from 'A Factory Video')

Live 'professional' / 'semi professional' stuff that exists that could be used:

Melbourne 27/11/82
Haçienda 26/01/83 (Your Silent Face was on 'A Factory Outing')
Cork 22/04/83 (2 tracks were on the Glasgow DVD)
Minneapolis 29/06/83 (great footage exists)
Music For Miners 14/05/84 (great rehearsal footage exists, sadly without sound)
Seaside Festival 11/08/84 (great footage exists and was featured on Belgian TV)

TV:

Riverside 17/0/83 (nice article about the Haçienda)
Top Of The Pops 31/03/83 (Blue Monday)
Switch 01/04/83 (Age Of Consent & Blue Monday)
Countdown 05/06/83 (Interview, Blue Monday and (the fabled) Confusion)
Riverside 10/10/83 (Interview)
DJ 03/12/83 (Thieves Like Us)
Musik Convoy 16/04/84 (Thieves Like Us)
Top Of The Pops 03/05/84 (Thieves Like Us)
Pop Elektron 25/05/84 (Interview, Thieves Like Us)
Play At Home 21/08/84 (this HAS to be included)
Rock Around The Clock 25/08/84 (I'm hoping that the band will ok this brilliant 'car crash' performance)
Estoc De Pop 15/09/84 (four tracks broadcast, but whole gig could be included)


OK - I'm about done. Phew!

Anything I've missed? Anything you'd absolutely love to see included?

Edited by user 20 January 2019 10:08:50(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I'd pay for that, haha.

I wish they'd drop the live DVD stuff or release it separately. Feels like an excuse to crank up the price (if anyone's listening).

The Butterworth book might give more insight to PCL demos - been a while since I read it.

Someone has posted this on Facebook. A possible release date and format details (inc. 2 x DVD!):



So 08/11/19 then!
With the four 12”s being released, one a week, starting 11/10/19.

Hope this is accurate. 2 x DVDs. The mind boggles as to what might be on this.

Thanks to BaggieBoiler for pointing this out to me this morning.

Edited by user 27 June 2019 00:38:27(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I’m still holding out for a CD singles box set once the LP sets are done, but I think I’m grasping...

Still, I’m massively happy with these sets and the accompanying 12”s.

Can’t wait until we get to hear the contents of the LP set. By my reckoning, based on how close the announcement of Movement was before release, we could get a PC&L announcement in mid-July. Not long to wait.

(Unless any of our illustrious friends on these boards could give us a sneak glimpse into the contents. 😉)

Or at least confirm that it is definitely going to have two DVDs.

Here’s hoping for a die-cut / silver inner version of Blue Monday. I’m sure we’ll get it.

If the Movement box is any indication, the singles and B-sides won't be on the second disc. My suspicion (and hope) is that those will all appear on a deluxe Substance box.

Possible inclusion:
Demos
Two Peel sessions
The Christmas flexi
Prime 5-8-6
Possibly an alternate single mix or two

Generally uncirculated/unheard material

I'm far more curious about the two DVDs!

Agreed. I’m loving the format of the sets.

I was initially disappointed that the singles / mixes weren’t in the Movement set, but what we did get... Wow!

The bonus CD was just great. Both the WW and Cargo demos were stunning.

And the DVD was the obvious highlight.

More of the same and I’ll be very happy.
I do kind of wish that Video 5-8-6 is included though. It’s too damn good to be missed off.

Here’s hoping for that ‘Substance’ Definitive Edition to ‘round up’ all those ‘missing’ tracks.

Yep! 😁

Incredible. We may be talking about 5+ hours of good stuff.

When I'm With You, Milan 82.
Fuck the flexi, and fuck Vid586. I played it last wankend and I want my 22 minutes back.

I think Michael’s referring to Video 5-8-6.

I bloody love that track and listen to all 22 mins fairly regularly. An awesome piece of experimentation.
However much I still love the band, I can’t imagine them trying something as bonkers as that anymore.

Granted. But I think there’s quite a difference between the two pieces. The latter is less experimental and much more ambient ‘filler’.
All in my humble opinion, of course.

Also, Soundtrack was 16 years ago. Seems like only a few years ago to me.

I guess the closest ‘modern’ thing along these lines might be this ‘4:33’ track. But hardly the band breaking new ground.

...I liked it. But I agree it drags on after the 5th minute. I think it's the sound quality that makes it hard to listen.

Also, what was the source that said a PCL box set was coming out in November? Seems odd that you'd put out another $100 box set in a span of 6 months.