Rather than make a separate thread for all the things I was thinking of querying tonight (like my Confusion thread), I thought it might be a good idea to make a dedicated thread to add various choice items to talk about and discuss.

From 7" promos to freebie flexis.
Flicker books to rulers.
Lewie busts to paperweights.


So, onto my first item.

Talking of flexis, here's one that most people probably don't know about.

Bizz Magazine Flexi

https://www.discogs.com/...day-1988/release/1776158

This was given away with a Brazilian magazine called (you guessed it) 'Bizz'.

Here's the issue in question (I think, see below), along with images:

http://m-80rockbands.blo...revista-poster-bizz.html

Anyone speak Portuguese?

As I mentioned above, I think it was this issue, but it may have been this one (as the cover seems familiar):

https://issuu.com/lucasc...-_new_order__junho_1988_

As with a lot of my stuff, both the cuttings from the magazine and the actual flexi are in storage at my mum's. However, I'm currently involved in scanning all my hundreds (possibly thousands! ) of cuttings. I do a little bit each time I go there. I'll get around to it eventually, but I'm up to 1983, so have a number of years to go to get to '88.

If I had to guess though, I'm pretty sure it's the top link (the cover with the band at The Roxy).

Onto the remix.
I haven't played it for years, but as far as I can tell, it's exclusive to this release.
I noted it on my list back in the early 90s as 'Blue Monday 1988 ('Bizz' Magazine Edit)', so it appears that it's a mix of the '88 version (which figures, based on the release date).
I have a logged time of 3:20, so quite a bit shorter than the standard 1988 7".

I really can't remember anything about it, though. It might just be an early fade. My use of the term 'edit' seems to point to that, rather than a unique mix.


I'm pretty sure that I picked this up at one of those massive record fairs they used to have at the Birmingham NEC, two or three times a year.

I used to go there with David Smith from 'Paradise' fanzine (remember that?), as we were good friends.
We used to have a little bit of an unwritten competition; who could find the best stuff. It was pretty much an 'on your marks' type thing. Doors would open and we would both try to head for certain sellers that were always there and were practically guaranteed to have some interesting items.

Some times I would walk out the victor but, more often than not it seemed, David would be the (unspoken) champion.

I remember feeling pleased I got this magazine, as it seemed pretty exclusive at the time (especially before we had internet shopping). Realistically speaking, I guess there's probably thousands of the damn things, given the vast size of Brazil.

If anyone knows which of the two magazines the flexi came with, please let me know.
Even better, if anyone has a rip of the (dodgy, flexible) vinyl, please let me know.

OK, final item for tonight.

As well as the 2x12" mentioned, my prize also included the following promo CD, which I was far more pleased with:

https://www.discogs.com/...r-Sampler/release/796620

I thought this was really exclusive at the time (again, pre-internet). Now it seems you can pick them up fairly cheaply.



Not the best New Order competition to win. In the 26/11/88 issue of 'NME", there was a chance to win Barney's guitar, which would've been a much better prize to have got.

(Incidentally, that particular competition mentioned that the guitar on offer was Bernard's black 1959 Gibson Les Paul Special. However, the accompanying image showed him playing his Gibson ES335, a guitar he was still using at Reading the following year. Also, as far as I know, I think the only other Gibsons Bernard played was his SG or his Les Paul Junior. I'm guessing it was the latter they were referring to, as he never seemed to play it in the late 80s. Also, I think the Special and Juniors were very similar.)

I have it, but can't rip it... I don't own a turntable for ages now. Plus, I always thought it was the regular 1988 7" anyway





I also have those magazines... they're not the one that came with the flexi, but they're pretty nice. My sister used to have a subscription

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Can't contribute much to this, the only couple oddities off the top of my head i own are the Tonpress Polish 7" with BM and TLU.Is that regarded as an oddity though? Maybe not.And one copy of the Benelux TPK 7".I have a Get Ready fold out card promo thing that i got from somewhere when the album was released.Round & Round micro CD.Nothing really rare though.

^ Yep the Tonpress 7” has the standard versions of BM and TLU , so as they’re crammed onto a 7” the sound ain’t the best! Think I only ever played it once.

The Get Ready thing is a foldout card with images from the album sleeve and maybe one or two others , can’t remember for sure now .

Never seen that orange vinyl 'In Order'. That's a bloody nice item.

I'd love to own the Gatefold Substance. One of these days...

I have that Touch 'Video 586' 12". Mine came with a postcard, if I remember correctly. I'm guessing it's ticked away in the sleeve.
I also have the CD release of it. The original digipack version (apparently Touch released a jewel case variant a year or so later).
I recall ringing up Touch on a payphone at my workplace and speaking to a guy who appeared to be a fan. Might have even been Jon Wozencroft.

I have both of those R&R & Republic CDs. Love both of them. Very cool indeed.

A couple of other cool CDs spring to mind.
Those two CDVs that were released for True Faith and Blue Monday 1988:

https://www.discogs.com/...rue-Faith/release/462979
https://www.discogs.com/...nday-1988/release/882345

When I first saw them in HMV Manchester, I snapped up True Faith immediately, but put off buying Blue Monday 1988. They were quite pricey, if I recall correctly (probably £10 each).

I chose True Faith based mainly on finally being able to have the 12" Remix on CD and also for 'Evil Dust' (which I hadn't clue what the Hell it was until I played it). Of course, I was also pleased that the '7" version' labelled as being on the disc was actually an exclusive edit of the remix (although I hated the edited chorus).

The Blue Monday 1988 disc looked fairly unremarkable to me, with all the audio tracks appearing to be exactly the same as the standard CD single. However, when I finally got around to purchasing it months later, I was pleased to hear that 'Beach Buggy 12"' was actually the Dub version (only available previously on vinyl) and the 7" version was a different (and exclusive) mix.

Oh i do have that True Faith CDV now you mention it.Snapped it up somewhere in late 80s.Dug it just now and gave it a spin.I'd forgotten that there's that exclusive 7" mix of the Pettibone remix.I'd also forgotten the way the chorus is butchered and misses a couple of lines out and seems to jump from "My morning sun is the drug that brings me near" to "that my life would depend on the morning sun".The "To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear/I used to think that the day would never come" is chopped out! Still, nice to have.

Nice to hear Evil Dust again , hadn't given that a spin in years.I already had that mix of Angel Dust at the time when i bought the CDV so i was familiar with it.It was originally on a various artists compilation vinyl that was released in late 1986, a month or two after Brotherhood but which i later sold with a bunch of other stuff in the late 80s as i was trying to get some money together. I figured it was one of a number of records i didn't really need anymore.Can't for the life of me remember what the album was called now.Think i'd first become aware of it through Melody Maker or something.What was the name of that compilation album??

Edit: Found it. It was this album- Funky Alternatives .That's the one i originally bought not longer after Brotherhood as it had an exclusive mix of Angel Dust.Crikey, looking at the tracklist there's a few other gems on there also. Like Chris & Cosey's October Love Song - i do not remember that being on there! Thought i'd never heard that cute little tune until more recent years.How odd.



I never bought the Blue Monday 88 CDV.I saw it numerous times on sale back in the day but i just didn't bother, probably because i was never a massive fan of BM 88.I didn't know that there's an exclusive 7" mix on it however.

I'm not sure i'd been aware that Video 586 was available on 12".I bought the digi pack CD around 1997.I'm assuming then that the 22 minute track is split over the two sides of the 12" ??...... Either that or it's a one sided vinyl

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Speaking of 5-8-6 harder-to-finds, the Peel version also appeared on this 2012 vinyl release:



Which I recall was sort of released in a semi-official/grey area capacity until it promptly wasn't. I managed to grab one at the time.

Now a lot of collectors are chasing it and you can't trade it on Discogs.

Full Elegia there too.

Never seen this before. Thanks for posting.

Talking of ‘full length’ Elegia, apparently there’s an even longer version. Hooky mentioned having it on one of his weekly chats. He was apparently considering it for inclusion in the forthcoming Low Life set.



That’s really nice. Again, never knew about this.

I'm pretty selective with bootlegs.

For me, there's still romance in some of the classic 80s live gigs pressed on vinyl with offbeat original sleeves, underground style. They're often pretty rare and go for a lot of money. At the time this was the only way you got to hear these shows. I have a nice stash of these.

In the past decade, the price of pressing vinyl has dropped a lot. To the point where there are hundreds of new pressings of old shows and demos that hold no value for me. Feels a bit soulless.

Then you get recent releases like this Substance that come in a multitude of colours and have many buyers believing they're authorised. The eBay seller never lets on and charges a heap for them.

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These promos have exclusive edits as well - although the Round & Round one is also on the 7" US promo, I think







I also have a 2-track CD for Let's go somewhere, with both edits already released on the US (? the best of) and the 1963 CD single. And the 20 Years f New Order promo, featuring an exclusive mix of 60mph by Dave Kahne.

Very good deal indeed... I only got the one with the extended mixes. Had to buy the official download of the edits at the time, assuming they wouldn't appear on CD

I might be wrong on that one. Can't find the disc anywhere right now