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#26 Posted : 07 August 2015 14:39:27(UTC)
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It'll be great if this re-release corrects all the mistakes of the previous version. Even if it does, it'll only give us three seven inch versions that haven't yet been avaiable on CD somewhere (Confusion, Perfect Kiss, Run 2). Had never noticed before that the UK seven inch mix of Perfect Kiss (FAC 123) was the shorter of the two seven inch mixes - be good to have that version on there instead of the 4:23 FBN edit.

What'd make it more attractive to collectors, however, would be a third disc with all B-sides in their seven inch versions, including the shorter versions of the dub mixes that were on the early seven inches. That'd really be worth buying!

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Following on from my above post, if this re-release were to feature fan-enticing bonus disc(s) including the shorter seven inch versions of B-sides (unreleased to-date on CD), these 17 tracks would all fit on one CD:

In A Lonely Place (7 Inch) (4:39)
Procession (4:30)
Mesh (3:04)
Cries And Whispers (3:27)
Hurt (7 Inch) (4:47)
Lonesome Tonight (7 Inch) (3:53)
Murder (3:56)
1963 (5:32)
Don't Do It (4:34)
Best & Marsh (Seven Inch) (3:34)
MTO (3:44)
Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) (4:07)
Let's Go (3:56)
Behind Closed Doors (5:26)
Sabotage (4:51)
Player In The League (5:36)
Such A Good Thing (4:08)

[1 hour 13 min 35 secs total time]

Or for a tastier 'deluxe' version, these 28 tracks would fit onto two bonus CDs (including the seven-inch edits of B-side dub/alternate band versions):

In A Lonely Place (7 Inch) (4:39)
Procession (4:30)
Mesh (3:04)
Cries And Whispers (3:27)
Hurt (7 Inch) (4:47)
Lonesome Tonight (7 Inch) (3:53)
Murder (3:56)
The Kiss Of Death (7 Inch) (3:01)
Dub-Vulture (7 Inch) (3:37)
Thieves Like Us (Instrumental Edit) (3:58) [B-side to 'Shellshock' 7"]
Shame Of The Nation (7 Inch) (3:35)
Bizarre Dub Triangle (7 Inch) (3:28)
1963 (5:32)
Evil Dust (3:45)
Touched By The Hand Of Dub (7 Inch) (4:12)
Confusion Dub 1987 (5:23)
Beach Buggy (7 Inch) (4:20)
Don't Do It (4:34)
Best & Marsh (Seven Inch) (3:34)
MTO (3:44)
World In Motion... (The B-Side) (4:49)
Regret (The New Order Mix) (5:12)
Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) (4:07)
Let's Go (3:56)
Behind Closed Doors (5:26)
Sabotage (4:51)
Player In The League (5:36)
Such A Good Thing (4:08)

[1 hour 58 min 52 secs total time]

Over to you, Rhino.......?!

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just to get even more fancy, will need to update the 4xcd version made by fans back in 2003.

will have to add the recent tracks to this:
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new order box - international 2 (singles+b-sides)
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[v0.4d] by -1 analysis
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disc 01 the early singles
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time (m:s) track(mix)         note
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4:34 1 ceremony (original) from the original 7"
4:27 2 procession from the original 7"
3:13 3 Dreams Never End album version (was released on us 10" promo)
5:33 4    Everything's Gone Green from the original 12"
5:23 5 Temptation (7") from the uk 7"
3:26 6 Rocking Carol from the uk flexi
4:24 7 ecstasy (or only the lonely) album version (was released on us 10" promo)
4:34 8 Blue Monday (video version) from the uk video
3:54 9 Confusion (video version) from the uk video
3:54 10 Thieves Like Us (edit) from the uk 7" promo
3:55 11 Murder from the 12"
4:23 12 The Perfect Kiss (edit) from the 7"
3:29 13 Sub-culture (edit) from the 7"
4:19 14 Shellshock (edit) from the 7"
3:25 15 State of the Nation (edit) from the 7"
3:40 16 Bizarre Love Triangle (edit) from the 7"
4:03 17    Way Of Life from the us 12" promo
3:51 18 weirdo album version (was released on bz 12" promo)
4:10 19 True Faith (album edit) from us promo cd
-----
79min:53sec act[79min:18sec]

disc 02 the latter singles
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3:40 1 Touched by the Hand of God(edit) from the 7"/japanese 3" cds
4:10 2 Blue Monday 1988 (7" version) from the 7"/cds
3:08 3 Fine Time (7" version) from the 7"/cds
3:31 4 Round & round (7") from the 7"/cds
3:35 5    Run 2 from the uk 7" promo/japanese laserdisc
4:20 6 Mr. Disco album version (was released on bz 12" promo)
3:56 7 World In Motion... (video mix) from the 'best of' japanese laserdisc
4:07 8    Regret (7 inch version) from the 7"/cds
3:58 9    Ruined In A Day (k-klass edit) from the promo cd-single
3:39 10    World (the radio edit) from the cd-single
3:44 11 Spooky (radio edit) from the us cd-single
4:28 12 True Faith-94 (radio edit) from the cd-single
4:04 13    1963
(95 arthur baker radio remix) from the cd-single
4:02 14 Let's Go (nothing for me) album version (was released as us cds promo)
4:14 15 Blue Monday 95(hardfloor radio edit)from the uk cd-single promo
3:20 16 brutal (edit) from the uk cd-single promo
4:29 17 True Faith 2002(morel's Pink Noise Edit)from the us cd-single promo
4:19 18 Crystal (radio edit) from the us cd-single
4:45 19 60mph (david kahne mix 2) from the us cd-single promo
3:55 20 Here to Stay (radio edit) from the uk cd-single
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79min:24sec act[76m:00s+3:56]

disc 03 the early b-sides
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4:35 1 in a lonely place (7") from the 'ceremony' original 7"
4:00 2 Everything's Gone Green (7") from the procession 7"
4:37 3 truth album version (was released as us 10" promo)
3:00 4 Mesh     from the original 12"
3:25 5 Cries and Whispers from the original 12"
4:42 6 hurt (7") from the uk 7"
3:42 7 Ode to joy from the uk flexi
5:19 8 Confusion Beats from the 12"
4:00 9 lonesome tonight(7") from the uk 7" promo
5:09 10 The Perfect Kiss (Instrumental) from the 7"
3:36 11 Dub-vulture (edit) from the 7"
3:55 12 Thieves Like Us
(instrumental edit) from the shellshock 7"
3:37 13 Shame of the Nation (edit) from the 7"
3:23 14    Bizarre Dub Triangle (edit) from the 7"
4:10 15 Touched by the Hand of Dub(edit) from the 7"/japanese 3" cds
4:17 16 Beach Buggy (7" edit) from the 7"/japanese 5" cds
4:30 17 Don't Do It from the 7"
3:59 18 Best & marsh (7") from the 7"/uk cds
3:43 19 MTO from the uk 7" promo

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79min:23sec (approx) act[79m:07s]

disc 04 the latter b-sides+miscellaneous
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4:56 1 World In Motion'96(mark bell remix)from the 'beautiful game' compilation
4:09 2    Vicious Circle (new order mix) from the cassette maxi-single
4:04 3 true faith-94
(eschreamer mix edit) from cream mix cd
3:47 4 blue monday 95
(plutone radio edit or 7") from the uk cd-single promo
5:39 5 sunrise (rough inst mix) from 'discrete campaigns' cassette
4:07 6 such a good thing from wim 2002
5:25 7 Behind Closed Doors from the 'crystal' cd-single
4:48 8 Sabotage from the '60 mph' cd-single
5:35 9 Player in the League from the 'here to stay' cd-single
3:09 10 confusion 2002
(arthur bakers edit) from the uk cd-single
0:32 11 blue Monday [Sunkist commercial] from the 'new order story' laserdisc
3:58 12 blue monday(live top of the pops)from the 'new order story' laserdisc
2:31 13 Happy One from the 'Substance' laserdisc
3:54 14 bizarre love triangle
(married to the mob) from the soundtrack
3:42 15 let's go (salvation) from the soundtrack
5:08 16 the perfect kiss (live vid edit) from the us 12" promo/us dvd
9:55 17 the perfect kiss (live video) from the 'best of' japanese laserdisc
1:20 18 Perfect Pit from the 12"
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75min:29sec (approx) act[77m:45s]



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#30 Posted : 10 August 2015 03:03:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Had never noticed before that the UK seven inch mix of Perfect Kiss (FAC 123) was the shorter of the two seven inch mixes - be good to have that version on there instead of the 4:23 FBN edit.


The thing is the Ivan Ivan edit is a bit of a hatchet job and doesn't present TPK in its best light. It might be rare but ultimately a compromise between what might appeal to collectors and what is best commercially has to be made.

It'll get a release one day, along with other similar rarities.
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#31 Posted : 10 August 2015 03:51:17(UTC)
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I've found the FBN edit or the variation they put on Total to be a pretty good representation of TPK as far as edits go.

The live version they played on the '93 tour had an intro not too dissimilar to the Ivan Ivan Edit didn't it?

Never cared for the album version that much.
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#32 Posted : 11 August 2015 14:26:20(UTC)
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Had never noticed before that the UK seven inch mix of Perfect Kiss (FAC 123) was the shorter of the two seven inch mixes - be good to have that version on there instead of the 4:23 FBN edit.


The thing is the Ivan Ivan edit is a bit of a hatchet job and doesn't present TPK in its best light. It might be rare but ultimately a compromise between what might appeal to collectors and what is best commercially has to be made.

It'll get a release one day, along with other similar rarities.



I agree with this (and the last post above). I'm torn between wanting the compilation to finally contain all the true 7" versions, but prefer the FBN 7" (and FBN 7" of The Kiss Of Death) to the rather awkward UK edit. But it'd also be nice to have a digital remaster of the shorter edit, for a change.

So I have no objection to either edit being on there. It'll be interesting to see what they choose!
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#33 Posted : 11 August 2015 18:15:40(UTC)
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Where's Video 586?!

Where's Murder?!

lulz

But really? Until I get an unnecessary 12" of the Full Video Version of "The Perfect Kiss" (expertly remastered by 50£ Note), I don't care. (reissue, repackage..)

Give us Recycle in official form.
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Where's Video 586?!


Agree, but could you really put a NO compilation on and sit through those tedious, repetitive 7364061784 hours again?

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Where's Video 586?!

Where's Murder?!

lulz

But really? Until I get an unnecessary 12" of the Full Video Version of "The Perfect Kiss" (expertly remastered by 50£ Note), I don't care. (reissue, repackage..)

Give us Recycle in official form.


I don't understand Murder it's an odd one. It's not a B side but neither was it a UK single.

In theory Video 586 isn't a single. If you were bored enough and read the UK chart rules (don't ask) then you would see this.
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Where's Video 586?!

Where's Murder?!

lulz

But really? Until I get an unnecessary 12" of the Full Video Version of "The Perfect Kiss" (expertly remastered by 50£ Note), I don't care. (reissue, repackage..)

Give us Recycle in official form.


I don't understand Murder it's an odd one. It's not a B side but neither was it a UK single.

In theory Video 586 isn't a single. If you were bored enough and read the UK chart rules (don't ask) then you would see this.



I would be that bored, but I take your word. LoL



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#37 Posted : 15 August 2015 01:55:31(UTC)
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I'm bullshitting now but I used to dig the inner-groove messages - part of the personality of the band that went outa the window '93. http://gaffa.org/archives/1989-09/msg00037.html... There's a famous story behind the 'Still' inner grooves but I'm sure you all know it anyway.
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#38 Posted : 15 August 2015 02:00:52(UTC)
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Following on from my above post, if this re-release were to feature fan-enticing bonus disc(s) including the shorter seven inch versions of B-sides (unreleased to-date on CD), these 17 tracks would all fit on one CD:

In A Lonely Place (7 Inch) (4:39)
Procession (4:30)
Mesh (3:04)
Cries And Whispers (3:27)
Hurt (7 Inch) (4:47)
Lonesome Tonight (7 Inch) (3:53)
Murder (3:56)
1963 (5:32)
Don't Do It (4:34)
Best & Marsh (Seven Inch) (3:34)
MTO (3:44)
Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) (4:07)
Let's Go (3:56)
Behind Closed Doors (5:26)
Sabotage (4:51)
Player In The League (5:36)
Such A Good Thing (4:08)

[1 hour 13 min 35 secs total time]

Or for a tastier 'deluxe' version, these 28 tracks would fit onto two bonus CDs (including the seven-inch edits of B-side dub/alternate band versions):

In A Lonely Place (7 Inch) (4:39)
Procession (4:30)
Mesh (3:04)
Cries And Whispers (3:27)
Hurt (7 Inch) (4:47)
Lonesome Tonight (7 Inch) (3:53)
Murder (3:56)
The Kiss Of Death (7 Inch) (3:01)
Dub-Vulture (7 Inch) (3:37)
Thieves Like Us (Instrumental Edit) (3:58) [B-side to 'Shellshock' 7"]
Shame Of The Nation (7 Inch) (3:35)
Bizarre Dub Triangle (7 Inch) (3:28)
1963 (5:32)
Evil Dust (3:45)
Touched By The Hand Of Dub (7 Inch) (4:12)
Confusion Dub 1987 (5:23)
Beach Buggy (7 Inch) (4:20)
Don't Do It (4:34)
Best & Marsh (Seven Inch) (3:34)
MTO (3:44)
World In Motion... (The B-Side) (4:49)
Regret (The New Order Mix) (5:12)
Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) (4:07)
Let's Go (3:56)
Behind Closed Doors (5:26)
Sabotage (4:51)
Player In The League (5:36)
Such A Good Thing (4:08)

[1 hour 58 min 52 secs total time]

Over to you, Rhino.......?!


This is definitely gonna happen.
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Never cared for the album version that much.


The editing is a disgrace. 'WH...!' Makes Razormaid look like Horn and Lipson. I'm amazed it got through at all, let alone onto an official release.
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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Following on from my above post, if this re-release were to feature fan-enticing bonus disc(s) including the shorter seven inch versions of B-sides (unreleased to-date on CD), these 17 tracks would all fit on one CD:

In A Lonely Place (7 Inch) (4:39)
Procession (4:30)
Mesh (3:04)
Cries And Whispers (3:27)
Hurt (7 Inch) (4:47)
Lonesome Tonight (7 Inch) (3:53)
Murder (3:56)
1963 (5:32)
Don't Do It (4:34)
Best & Marsh (Seven Inch) (3:34)
MTO (3:44)
Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) (4:07)
Let's Go (3:56)
Behind Closed Doors (5:26)
Sabotage (4:51)
Player In The League (5:36)
Such A Good Thing (4:08)

[1 hour 13 min 35 secs total time]

Or for a tastier 'deluxe' version, these 28 tracks would fit onto two bonus CDs (including the seven-inch edits of B-side dub/alternate band versions):

In A Lonely Place (7 Inch) (4:39)
Procession (4:30)
Mesh (3:04)
Cries And Whispers (3:27)
Hurt (7 Inch) (4:47)
Lonesome Tonight (7 Inch) (3:53)
Murder (3:56)
The Kiss Of Death (7 Inch) (3:01)
Dub-Vulture (7 Inch) (3:37)
Thieves Like Us (Instrumental Edit) (3:58) [B-side to 'Shellshock' 7"]
Shame Of The Nation (7 Inch) (3:35)
Bizarre Dub Triangle (7 Inch) (3:28)
1963 (5:32)
Evil Dust (3:45)
Touched By The Hand Of Dub (7 Inch) (4:12)
Confusion Dub 1987 (5:23)
Beach Buggy (7 Inch) (4:20)
Don't Do It (4:34)
Best & Marsh (Seven Inch) (3:34)
MTO (3:44)
World In Motion... (The B-Side) (4:49)
Regret (The New Order Mix) (5:12)
Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) (4:07)
Let's Go (3:56)
Behind Closed Doors (5:26)
Sabotage (4:51)
Player In The League (5:36)
Such A Good Thing (4:08)

[1 hour 58 min 52 secs total time]

Over to you, Rhino.......?!


This is definitely gonna happen.


What makes you think that?
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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2015(UTC)
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I can see it now... The majors get it right after fucking up for years...
By a curious coincidence I was watching Shug's Electronic DVDs yesterday - remember those? Fan releases urinate over official ones. Compare and contrast Recycle / International.

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Anyone know if this remaster is getting a UK release? Can't find it listed at any UK online stores yet, and don't want to spend more on US shipping.
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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2015(UTC)
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Does anybody ever seen some picture of the Singles' 4 x 180g vinyls box set? Except on Music Direct I didn't see anything else about the box in anywhere as Amazon or even Rhino website, the band's on line store etc.
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I've come to the conclusion that the majors fuck these things up on purpose to make life more fun / frustrating for the hard-core fans. I'm looking forward to:
'Singles, 2013, released on 30 February 2062:
One of the songs will be edited by 6.295 seconds to give forum users something to talk about.
The Perfect Kiss will be the album edit which is shit to irritate people.
Blue Monday will have the same glitches as those wondrous remasters so the people who shelled out for them will know.
True Faith will be replaced by Ruined In A Day - Bogle Mix for no reason at all.
Turn will be listed but replaced by Ruined In A Day - Bogle Mix for no reason at all too.'

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#45 Posted : 25 August 2015 14:58:24(UTC)
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http://www.musictap.net/...der-arrives-in-november/

Looks like the Singles re-release has been pushed back to November. Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case with all the reissues - seems daft to have them released at the same time as a new album.
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#46 Posted : 26 August 2015 00:15:30(UTC)
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Note revised tracklisting (and they're all 2015 remastered versions, not sure why it only says it on True Faith):

CD1:

01 Ceremony
02 Procession
03 Everything’s Gone Green (7” Version)
04 Temptation (Original 7″ Version)
05 Blue Monday
06 Confusion (UK 7” Promo Edit)
07 Thieves Like Us (7” Promo Edit)
08 The Perfect Kiss (7” Edit)
09 Sub-Culture (7” Edit)
10 Shellshock (7” Edit)
11 State Of The Nation (7” Edit)
12 Bizarre Love Triangle (7” Remix Edit)
13 True Faith (7” Edit) [2015 Remastered Version]
14 Touched By The Hand Of God (7” Edit)
15 Blue Monday ’88 (7” Version)

CD2:

01 Fine Time (7” Version)
02 Round And Round (7” Version)
03 Run 2 (7” Remix Edit)
04 World In Motion
05 Regret
06 Ruined In A Day (Radio Edit)
07 World (The Price Of Love) [Radio Edit]
08 Spooky (Minimix)
09 Nineteen63 (Arthur Baker Radio Remix)
10 Crystal (Radio Edit)
11 60 Miles An Hour (Radio Edit)
12 Here To Stay (Radio Edit)
13 Krafty (Single Edit)
14 Jetstream (Radio Edit)
15 Waiting For The Sirens’ Call (Rich Costey Radio Version)
16 Turn (Stephen Street Edit)
17 I’ll Stay With You (Lost Sirens LP Version)
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#47 Posted : 04 November 2015 07:09:57(UTC)
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This is due out in the US on Friday (6 Nov). Anyone know if it's coming out in the UK again (on CD ideally, or at least digitally)?
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#48 Posted : 04 November 2015 12:27:17(UTC)
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It's been put back until early next year now.

There were some minor things left to sort out and it missed the deadline.
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#49 Posted : 04 November 2015 14:26:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post
It's been put back until early next year now.

There were some minor things left to sort out and it missed the deadline.


Fair dos. Thanks for letting us know.

To be honest I'd rather they took a bit longer and got it perfect than rush release something with mistakes.

The box-set has the potential to be a really nice item.

EDIT: Not to mention it lets our bank accounts recover! It's a pricey time to be a New Order fan, both for new releases and gigs.

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#50 Posted : 04 November 2015 14:58:39(UTC)
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Since it's being delayed a couple months, it seems like a good opportunity to add the single edits of "Restless" and "Tutti Frutti" to the end of the album. I'd rather have those on there instead of "Turn" and "I'll Stay With You" since neither were actually singles.
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