oh, ok, there was a mixup on that one, because it said 2 mixes on the sleeve,
but there was a third on the disc.

Marketed and distributed by Rough Trade Records GmbH.
Published by Bemusic/Warner Bros Music

Track 3 is not mentioned on the artwork.

DARNIT, one more thing to get. haha

*actually 3 more, apparently they were released in australia also

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Edited by user 09 February 2021 16:33:51(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Tf2001 promo CD nightmare:

https://www.discogs.com/...e-Remix/release/14010038

https://www.discogs.com/...-Remixes/release/6232856

https://www.discogs.com/...rder-Mix/release/8687174

https://www.discogs.com/...rue-Faith/release/263572

I own the last one only.

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Pretty unremarkable. Rich Morel doesn't even have a copy of it anymore.

Promo mixes can be regarded as thus: the fewer times it appears across formats, the less interesting it is.*

I'm sure Warners only stuck it out there because they'd paid for it.


* The exception being Martin Buttrich's 2005 remix of Everything's Gone Green. It's my favorite New Order remix ever, and criminal that it never saw a commercial release.

i have all of these, and digitized somewhere, maybe in a decade i'll be able to dig up the digital
files, its actually easier for me to find the physical versions, since i'm clearing up and sorting out my collection.

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Philip Steir Re-Order Mix VOCAL /VOCAL EDIT.. are they actually any different from the the Philip Steir Re-Order Mix and Edit Mix ? Same run times ..?

I think someone may have just downloaded this from me, if your user name on Soulseek has a bunch of 7s in it.



That's my own custom artwork, taking the '87 sleeve and reimagining it as the stripe on all the 2001-2002 releases.

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Yep - it's very perplexing. Maybe they were going to do a video, and just never got around to it.

I've never really been sure of the story for these remixes.
Was there an intention for the band to properly release 'True Faith' again in 2001, and the idea got nixed (after the remixes had been commissioned)?
If so, that could be the reason why a video edit was made, to promote the release on MTV / VH1 etc.


Anyway, I've struck those two off my list - I reckon they're bound to be the same as the standard two mixes.

Anyone heard the 'My Fear Of Dub Mix'? Any good?

It was done to raise their profile in the US, where their last official release had been The Best Of 6 years earlier. Get people dancing to them, thinking "oh hey, New Order" before rolling out the single for Crystal and the campaign for Get Ready.

I wouldn't be too bothered by the variations of names - they're just promo. Not intended for the public. Maybe the label thought they'd put together a video for it, but by that stage MTV had almost stopped playing videos and YouTube didn't exist. It would've ended up being one of those promo VHS mix tapes sent to clubs. It probably would've been re-edited footage from the original 1987 video, with bad early '00s effects added. Not worth the time or effort if DJs and record pools weren't jumping for the promo.

I never once heard it in a club. A friend who worked the counter at one of the local record stores saved their promo copy and gave it to me.

Don't forget, this is a business. They were on a major label. The band probably had very little input, apart from approving the mixes they liked. The label would've chosen the song, the remixers - pretty much everything. Most UK bands tend to shrug it off and let the Americans do whatever they think is best for the market over here.

Thanks. That certainly makes sense.

It just seems odd that they didn't officially release it, even as a limited edition.
The only things that made it out (not counting that bonus track on 'Retro') were the various promos and they're rarer than rocking horse poo .

Seems a reasonable amount of cash to invest for very few people to ever get to hear the mixes.

Remember, Philip Steir had been a member of Consolidated, which was very much an underground band. Rich wasn't even in a band at that point, and had only done a few remixes (Pet Shop Boys, Deep Dish). We're not talking Oakenfold, Weatherall, Osborne, or whatever crap DJs were the highest paid remixers in 2001.

Is the Saville Soundtrack considered an oddity? Possibly my favourite instrumental (heresy, I know)

Definitely an oddity!!

Heresy, indeed!
Elegia all the way!

I get that it wasn't for me.

But why such limited numbers?
Surely, if so few people heard the mixes, there was very little chance that anyone was going to be 'thinking about' New Order.