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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse  There were several issues of Republic. Each version came out on their new label London, each version contained 11 tracks including four singles, and each version was total and utter fucking shit. I (and many others here) have the 13 track version.
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This is what it looks like on a flatbed scanner with no color correction. Fluorescent orange doesn't scan, or photograph well under certain conditions. There is no yellow puffy sleeve version. 
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Originally Posted by: Andy Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse There were several issues of Republic. Each version came out on their new label London, each version contained 11 tracks including four singles, and each version was total and utter fucking shit. I (and many others here) have the 13 track version. That's the bit you don't agree with.
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote This is what it looks like on a flatbed scanner with no color correction. Fluorescent orange doesn't scan, or photograph well under certain conditions. There is no yellow puffy sleeve version. wow, you had me fooled. will try mine out on a scanner. later -1
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Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Just a hunch, but it's very hard to take an accurate photo of fluorescent orange, and it wouldn't make sense to emulate the orange inflatable ring on the cover by creating a yellow puffy sleeve. I think it's either a photo that hasn't been color-corrected, or it's sun damage, but not actually yellow. huh? those are totally different colors. there's no way orange would show up as yellow. There is. That's what happens when you try to scan a fluorescent orange object. There is no yellow version. Originally Posted by: 50poundnote This is what it looks like on a flatbed scanner with no color correction. Fluorescent orange doesn't scan, or photograph well under certain conditions. There is no yellow puffy sleeve version. i'm sorry, but there must be something wrong with your scanner. i've tried 3 different ones, hp scanjet g4050, brother, and canon, and none are having that issue. i did not adjust any settings, or use any autocorrect features in the software either. here's the scans from the hp one:   full untouched 300 dpi scans. https://i.ibb.co/PWt6cP0/front.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/jL55B4y/back.jpgi would think its just another color, so i'm not sure why it wouldn't show up right. later -1 Edited by user 24 March 2021 12:30:06(UTC)
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There's nothing wrong with my scanner, it's a brand new Epson V39. I'm not the only person upthread who talks about fluorescent colors being difficult to scan and/or variance. That's the image as scanned at 600dpi, with no correction. What could I possibly have to gain by arguing with you or trying to convince you there's not a yellow puffy case? There simply isn't one. Edited by user 24 March 2021 13:31:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote There's nothing wrong with my scanner, it's a brand new Epson V39.
I'm not the only person upthread who talks about fluorescent colors being difficult to scan and/or variance.
That's the image as scanned at 600dpi, with no correction. What could I possibly have to gain by arguing with you or trying to convince you there's not a yellow puffy case? There simply isn't one. well, i agree about that. guess i have to ask the new order discography guy, where he got the scan from. later -1
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Are you really going to hound poor old Torbjorn with this one? He's in New Order retirement.
I've never seen one in 28 years of looking and I've heard several times from the biggest NO collectors in the world that this simply does not exist. If that's not conclusive enough, you'd have to assume that surely someone somewhere would've added a copy to Discogs by now.
As 50poundnote demonstrated, some scanners clearly reproduce the yellow/blue combo.
On top of this, some copies of the blue text version also have the clear promo sticker on front. So that counters any lingering argument about the yellow being the promo version.
Case is closed on this one.
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Yeah, with the free for all of the Net, I'm sure that if the sleeve existed, there'd be an image somewhere. It was the same with the Pet Shop boys' True Faith remix - links just went to the Shep Pettyboner version. Surely it'd be somewhere...
I googled the 13-track Republic and found the Sabres' mixes on the end. As I pointed out before, these things are a mixed blessing in disguise. At least Repubelick ends well - do you want, really really want two mixes they probably never even listened to stuck on at the end? It was the same with the McCartney Collection's Press to Play - not his best album, but with a glorious orchestral finish/flourish. Or above plus ten sex silence followed by three tracks that even the Macca of 86 relegated to B-side status - and you could Youtube anyway. Less is more and all that.
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I mean, why would they even have done a version in that ‘orrible yellow ? Looks truly yuck. Would have made no sense whatsoever .
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Are you really going to hound poor old Torbjorn with this one? He's in New Order retirement.
I've never seen one in 28 years of looking and I've heard several times from the biggest NO collectors in the world that this simply does not exist. If that's not conclusive enough, you'd have to assume that surely someone somewhere would've added a copy to Discogs by now.
As 50poundnote demonstrated, some scanners clearly reproduce the yellow/blue combo.
On top of this, some copies of the blue text version also have the clear promo sticker on front. So that counters any lingering argument about the yellow being the promo version.
Case is closed on this one. does anyone have an orange promo one then? havent seen one of those either. later -1
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Originally Posted by: negative1
does anyone have an orange promo one then?
havent seen one of those either.
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My blue text version doesn't have the promo sticker. Steve Smith had one. It's as per the original "yellow" scan above but in orange. All this just jogged my memory that I also owned an official promo t-shirt of the Limited Run release back in '93. Athletic grey with "Republic - The limited run.." in dayglo orange, as per sleeve font. It'd fetch some decent coin today. Edited by user 25 March 2021 15:55:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: negative1 I love the navy blue and lime green ones! Where do I send my money???
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here's the perfect kiss, my all time favorite song from them, and maybe from any group, ever... 1) There are the 4 main colors, plus Japanese (yellow), US (charcoal black), and 1 silver one that was released from some other record that i can't remember. i thought it was fine time, but nope, so its something else.      black inner sleeve UK: https://www.discogs.com/...rfect-Kiss/release/58672blue inner sleeve UK: https://www.discogs.com/...ect-Kiss/release/2094917pink inner sleeve UK: https://www.discogs.com/...ect-Kiss/release/4911454yellow inner sleeve UK: https://www.discogs.com/...ect-Kiss/release/2094924black plastic charcoal inner US: https://www.discogs.com/...fect-Kiss/release/106509japanese yellow inner: https://www.discogs.com/...ect-Kiss/release/1674265later -1
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^ Don’t quite understand what you’re saying about the silver version, negzy lad. Released from another record ? You thought it was Fine Time? Not sure what you mean
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CMYK Cyan, magenta, yellow and black: the 4 colors used for color printing. Ironic, since The Perfect Kiss, Low-life, and Sub-culture are all black and white. I love Saville’s ironic art jokes. (And yes, technically The Perfect Kiss is silver, but in the color scheme of things it’s 50% black and 50% white.) Edited by user 26 March 2021 19:10:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz ^ Don’t quite understand what you’re saying about the silver version, negzy lad. Released from another record ? You thought it was Fine Time? Not sure what you mean somehow i ended up replacing the black inner with a silver one from another record. but i can't find the record i got it from. i thought the silver would look better than black. later -1
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Fotz ^ Don’t quite understand what you’re saying about the silver version, negzy lad. Released from another record ? You thought it was Fine Time? Not sure what you mean somehow i ended up replacing the black inner with a silver one from another record. but i can't find the record i got it from. i thought the silver would look better than black. later -1 Ah ok. Reminds me, a few years ago I noticed that the plain paper white inner i had in my Run 2 12” was possibly the wrong inner and should be a gold one to match the gold inside of the outer sleeve . Searched through all my vinyl for a gold inner and found one in the World In Motion remixes 12” ( the one with the Caribinieri mix etc) . The outer sleeve for that is gold so I must have at some point by mistake ended up putting the gold inner from Run 12” in it. Edited by user 27 March 2021 02:13:07(UTC)
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Fine Time inner is metallic silver
Fine Time Remix and Run 2 are both metallic copper/gold
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Fine Time inner is metallic silver
Fine Time Remix and Run 2 are both metallic copper/gold the only problem is there is printing on it:  mine are plain. later -1
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Originally Posted by: Fotz ^ Ooh I’ve never heard of or seen that flexi for the 87 US tour. Great find. That’s a rare one that. 3 tracks on one side of a 7” flexi though? Dread to think what the sound quality is like. Still, a great rare one to own I should think. here's the follow up with the records, the cover is just a slipcase gatefold, thats empty on the inside.      later -1
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these new order postcards, just sold for $200: ebay.com/itm/NEW-ORDER-SINGLES-PROMO-POSTCARD-SET-30X-CARDS-PETER-SAVILLE-ARTWORK-POSTER/313471853812?hash=item48fc60e4f4:g:bi0AAOSw1LBgYNbX&autorefresh=true i paid $60 for mine when they were out.... stuck them in a vellum envelope:         there's printing on the back, with the name and number. pretty simple to reproduce envelope and cards. they are very poor, high contrasty scans, on glossy photo paper. later -1
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the polish edit sold for $200+ in february: https://www.discogs.com/...e-Monday/release/1245059Franek Kimono / New Order – Bruce Lee - Karate Mistrz / Blue Monday Label: Tonpress – DS-25-A Series: Disc Jockey (6) – none Format: Vinyl, 7", 45 RPM, Limited Edition, Promo Country: Poland Released: 1983 Genre: Electronic, Pop Style: New Wave, Synth-pop Tracklist A –Franek Kimono Bruce Lee - Karate Mistrz 3:45 B –New Order Blue Monday 5:05 Total Time: 8:50  later -1 Edited by user 23 April 2021 21:06:55(UTC)
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^ After all these years I’ve still never seen the question answered about that 5.05 edit on that Polish 7” . Is BM cut short at the start and/or end or is cut in a number of places throughout? I’ve still never seen an answer to the question
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