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Mr. Disco		#176 Posted : 20 February 2021 04:45:14(UTC)
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Fotz		#177 Posted : 20 February 2021 04:59:07(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco They also sold an uncut version: https://www.discogs.com/...igh-Line/release/9729490 Oh ok, wasn’t aware of that one.

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Fotz		#178 Posted : 20 February 2021 05:04:17(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		I have that version of Restless that appeared on the Japanese edition CD. Can’t recall how it differs so I’ll have to dig it out sometime

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Mr. Disco		#179 Posted : 20 February 2021 05:15:16(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1451 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		It's shorter and has some different drum breaks in the middle. The japanese mix is uncredited, maybe done by New Order themselves (Morris)?
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negative1		#180 Posted : 20 February 2021 11:38:57(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco They also sold an uncut version: https://www.discogs.com/...igh-Line/release/9729490 seems pretty darn rare, anyone have it? later -1

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Mr. Disco		#181 Posted : 20 February 2021 12:20:27(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1451 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		I would be interested at the time, if it came with yet another unreleased tracks. The regular shaped 7" was enough for me
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perspexorange		#182 Posted : 20 February 2021 13:13:16(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Somehow I managed to get the instrumentals, but it isn't even listed on Discogs. I only found this one with the extended instrumentals, which I've never heard about: https://www.discogs.com/...umentals/release/9966702 Any idea where I can get hold of copies of the Instrumentals (the extended ones or just the normal ones)? Were they ever made available to buy?

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Mr. Disco		#183 Posted : 20 February 2021 13:16:28(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1451 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Any idea where I can get hold of copies of the Instrumentals (the extended ones or just the normal ones)? Were they ever made available to buy? The instrumental album was originally available at http://www.umusicpub.de/...c-complete-instrumentals Never reappeared since. Edited by user 20 February 2021 13:21:29(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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perspexorange		#184 Posted : 20 February 2021 13:17:31(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz Oh and digital files of the Weatherall dub of Restless , Radio edits of all the album tracks and Tutti Frutti STEMS ( didn’t bother with the Academic one) When you say 'radio edits of all the album tracks', are you just referring to the singles, or were there radio edits for every track? As far as I knew, there were radios edits of Restless, Singularity and Tutti Frutti, plus two radio edits of POTHL (Claptone & Richard X). Are there any others?

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perspexorange		#185 Posted : 20 February 2021 13:18:59(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Originally Posted by: perspexorange Any idea where I can get hold of copies of the Instrumentals (the extended ones or just the normal ones)? Were they ever made available to buy? The instrumental album was originally available at http://www.umusicpub.de/...c-complete-instrumentals Never appeared since. Thanks. Looks like I missed my chance.

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Fotz		#186 Posted : 20 February 2021 13:44:59(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: Fotz Oh and digital files of the Weatherall dub of Restless , Radio edits of all the album tracks and Tutti Frutti STEMS ( didn’t bother with the Academic one) When you say 'radio edits of all the album tracks', are you just referring to the singles, or were there radio edits for every track? As far as I knew, there were radios edits of Restless, Singularity and Tutti Frutti, plus two radio edits of POTHL (Claptone & Richard X). Are there any others? Well, like i said, all the album tracks.God you're a doubting Thomas at times aren't you.All the album tracks have a couple of minutes or more chopped out.Some more expertly done than others.In places some tracks just jump from one part to another.Other sections are done better or even rearranged a little.I suppose anyone who knows how do it could do it if they have the right software or something.No idea who did the edits.Think i only ever listened to it once or twice, will have to give it another spin.I'll send it to you

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Mr. Disco		#187 Posted : 20 February 2021 13:45:27(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1451 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange When you say 'radio edits of all the album tracks', are you just referring to the singles, or were there radio edits for every track? As far as I knew, there were radios edits of Restless, Singularity and Tutti Frutti, plus two radio edits of POTHL (Claptone & Richard X). Are there any others? If you're considering remixes, there were the Mark Reeder's edits for both his mixes for Academic and The Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZBCON9rNs8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJgFb6ImQJ8
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perspexorange		#188 Posted : 20 February 2021 14:52:30(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Fotz God you're a doubting Thomas at times aren't you. Probably, but keep your hair on! I was just seeking clarification. To be fair, I've never heard of radio edits of the non-album tracks and you didn't mention where these were featured. It just seemed odd to me that they would do radio edits of every track. Hence my question. I just wondered if you made a typo (I do loads). That seemed (to me) more likely than the band doing radio edits for every single track (especially when I hadn't previously even heard of these). Edited by user 20 February 2021 14:53:13(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Fotz		#189 Posted : 20 February 2021 15:08:38(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: Fotz God you're a doubting Thomas at times aren't you. Probably, but keep your hair on! I was just seeking clarification. To be fair, I've never heard of radio edits of the non-album tracks and you didn't mention where these were featured. It just seemed odd to me that they would do radio edits of every track. Hence my question. I just wondered if you made a typo (I do loads). That seemed (to me) more likely than the band doing radio edits for every single track (especially when I hadn't previously even heard of these). Well I get the feeling the band had nothing to do with it but of course I can’t say for sure . I’m assuming they were done by someone in their bedroom who knows how to edit tracks using some sort of programme ? I think I must have stumbled across them on Soulseek, can’t remember for sure now.Anyway I’ve uploaded it to that Shared Drive. I think. I may have just shared it with myself, who knows! Give us a shout if it’s not in there. Edited by user 20 February 2021 15:10:09(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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perspexorange		#190 Posted : 20 February 2021 15:30:17(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Cheers. I’ll pull them down tomorrow. I guess if they are ‘fan made’, that would explain why I hadn’t heard of them.

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negative1		#191 Posted : 20 February 2021 18:41:54(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco I would be interested at the time, if it came with yet another unreleased tracks. The regular shaped 7" was enough for me uncut picture discs are just that, they don't have any different tracks. they are the full size (usually round), before they get cut into smaller or different shapes. Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Somehow I managed to get the instrumentals, but it isn't even listed on Discogs. I only found this one with the extended instrumentals, which I've never heard about: https://www.discogs.com/...umentals/release/9966702 Any idea where I can get hold of copies of the Instrumentals (the extended ones or just the normal ones)? Were they ever made available to buy? people in the US (maybe in other countries?) can get all the STEMS here, and just disable the vocals. reference post : https://www.facebook.com...rack-/10156258910840510/ store: https://www.junodownload...mplete-music/3096789-02/ i had a few threads: 1) the extended instrumentals 2) the album edit instrumentals recreated because they were available for licensing, but no one could get them. Originally Posted by: perspexorange Cheers. I’ll pull them down tomorrow. I guess if they are ‘fan made’, that would explain why I hadn’t heard of them. i think someone here on the board made them, use the search function for that. also, there are tons of digital DJ only releases that were mentioned, here are some of them: from my recycle 2 project: ================= recycle 2 - series 6 - set 1 - restless ====================================== here's an early list of mixes to be included: restless (agoria dub) 6:09 cd, dig restless (agoria mix) 6:48 v, cd restless (andrew weatherall dub) 7:13 dig restless (andrew weatherall mix) 7:47 v, cd, dig restless (andrew weatherall instrumental mix) 7:49 dig restless (album) 5:28 v, cd, dig, cs restless (extended) 9:30 v, cd, dig restless (extended 12 inch mix) 8:14 v, cd restless (extended mix) 7:09 v, cd, dig restless (rac isntrumental mix) 6:38 dig restless (rac mix) 6:44 v, cd restless (radio edit) 3:29 cd restless (single version) 4:31 v, cd restless (xxxy build up mix) 6:47 v, cd restless (xxxy dub) 6:47 dig recycle 2 - series 6 - set 2 - tutti frutti ====================================== tutti frutti (album) 6:22 v, cd, dig, cs tutti frutti (12 inch mix 2) 7:30 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (extended) 8:05 v, dig tutti frutti (hallo halo remix) 7:02 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (hallo halo remix instrumental) 11:43 dig tutti frutti (hot chip remix) 11:44 cd, dig tutti frutti (hot chip remix edit) 8:55 v tutti frutti (hot chip remix instrumental)11:43 dig tutti frutti (radio edit) 3:40 cd tutti frutti (radio remix) 3:47 cd tutti frutti (richy ahmed remix) 9:02 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (richy ahmed remix instrumental) 9:02 dig tutti frutti (single version) 4:17 cd, dig tutti frutti (takkyu ishino remix) 7:54 v, dig tutti frutti (tom rowlands remix) 7:41 cd, dig tutti frutti (tom tragos crazy days remix) 10:31 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (tom tragos crazy days remix instrumental) 10:31 dig later -1

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Fotz		#192 Posted : 21 February 2021 11:16:40(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		Oh, another one i forgot I even had.The Qwest 12” of True Faith. The 2 Pettibone remixes and 1963. Though one of the Pettibone remixes is named Alternate Faith Dub. Is that the same as the one on the UK remix 12” but just a different title ? Can’t remember now without giving it a spin. No idea where or when I obtained this.

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Jcp7		#193 Posted : 21 February 2021 11:37:49(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 559 Location: Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France Thanks: 12 times Was thanked: 697 time(s) in 561 post(s)		Yes, True Dub = True Faith (alternate Dub) https://www.discogs.com/...rue-Faith/release/106427 https://www.discogs.com/...ith-Remix/release/626576
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negative1		#194 Posted : 21 February 2021 12:04:21(UTC)
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Fotz		#195 Posted : 21 February 2021 13:03:55(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,655 Location: Down on the farm Thanks: 676 times Was thanked: 3733 time(s) in 2656 post(s)		^ liking the vinyl edition with the track listing to the right on back cover on the tracing paper ( looks like a Qwest logo at bottom) Edited by user 21 February 2021 13:07:18(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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negative1		#196 Posted : 28 February 2021 12:19:03(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		a couple of clear vinyl: 1) In order promo - 12 inch mixes, orange vinyl (CD is single versions) 2) Factus 8 EP - US clear vinyl Record store day later -1

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Mr. Disco		#197 Posted : 28 February 2021 14:44:54(UTC)
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negative1		#198 Posted : 28 February 2021 15:39:14(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Coombs-Breakfast-Of-Champions/master/111540 Personally, I've found it more polished and less edgy than his mix on the regular single back in 2001 interesting haven't heard about this before. will have to add it to the list. later -1 Edited by user 28 February 2021 17:54:38(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Debaser		#199 Posted : 28 February 2021 17:00:35(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,117 Location: here n there Thanks: 526 times Was thanked: 3192 time(s) in 2139 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Coombs-Breakfast-Of-Champions/master/111540 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRSCRf_ZPxI Personally, I've found it more polished and less edgy than his mix on the regular single back in 2001 interesting haven't heard about this before. will have to add it to the list. later -1 It's had plenty of discussion in the past... Personally I prefer his single (remix) version. Having said that, I was a big fan of all the "Nu Skool Breaks" dance stuff that was around back then. Including Lee Coombs stuff. I like the whole album (pronounced Break fast... as in "Breaks" music) Coombs also did yet another remix of the track about a year after the song was released. But that remix only ever got played in a DJ set he did for BBC Radio 1. I guess he still had the parts and used that (2003) remix as bait to make us listen to his DJ mix for the BBC. EDIT I mentioned it here post #42 on p2 I did have a radio rip of it on my hard drive, but eh, that hard drive has since died... Edited by user 28 February 2021 17:14:55(UTC) \| Reason: The edit at the bottom

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negative1		#200 Posted : 28 February 2021 17:57:54(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Debaser Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Coombs-Breakfast-Of-Champions/master/111540 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRSCRf_ZPxI Personally, I've found it more polished and less edgy than his mix on the regular single back in 2001 interesting haven't heard about this before. will have to add it to the list. later -1 It's had plenty of discussion in the past... Personally I prefer his single (remix) version. Having said that, I was a big fan of all the "Nu Skool Breaks" dance stuff that was around back then. Including Lee Coombs stuff. I like the whole album (pronounced Break fast... as in "Breaks" music) Coombs also did yet another remix of the track about a year after the song was released. But that remix only ever got played in a DJ set he did for BBC Radio 1. I guess he still had the parts and used that (2003) remix as bait to make us listen to his DJ mix for the BBC. EDIT I mentioned it here post #42 on p2 I did have a radio rip of it on my hard drive, but eh, that hard drive has since died... i saw that, but didn't know anything about it, and still don't. maybe someone else can chime in about it. later -1

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